So Wait....Why Is Rob Delaney On The Rays' Roster?
I was out for the weekend and unfortunately missed the series with the Orioles - Brandon Guyer! - so when looking over the news Monday morning, I did a double take. Wait, Brandon Guyer has been sent back down to Triple-A in favor of Rob Delaney? What's that about?
Don't get me wrong - I like Rob Delaney. He was a low risk, decent upside signing this off season, and he's put up impressive numbers the last few years in the minors. He struck out over 10 batters per nine last season in Triple-A, and so far this year he's been striking out 9.5 per nine while only walking 2.5 per nine. Not only that, but he's been getting in lots of work out the bullpen, pitching 18 innings in only 12 outings while posting a tidy 1.50 ERA / 2.64 FIP. He has a chance to be a solid arm for the Rays out of the bullpen, and it's fun to finally get a look at him.
The reason this move baffles me, though, is that I don't understand why the Rays need another reliever on their roster right now. Yes, Andy Sonnanstine is moving into the rotation and pitching tonight, so the Rays will be down to a six-man bullpen. We all know how much Joe Maddon likes to play bullpen matchups late in the game, so it somewhat makes sense that he'd want as many arms as possible out in the 'pen. But at the same time, there are these two points to consider:
- The Rays currently have the least used bullpen in the majors. They've pitched 87 innings, which is second lowest total behind the White Sox at 85 IP, and also faced the least amount of batters (342, with the next closest team at 368) and thrown the fewest pitches (h/t Collette). With J.P. Howell set to return potentially as early as Sunday, do the Rays really need to carry seven relievers right now? Couldn't they get by with only six for a few days?
- B.J. Upton has said he plans to serve his two-game suspension during this week's series against the Indians. With Upton out for two of these games, it means the Rays will have a short bench with three players on it: Elliot Johnson, Casey Kotchman or Dan Johnson, and John Jaso or Kelly Shoppach. Maddon doesn't just love to play pitching matchups; he also loves to mess around with his bench late in games. Doesn't this seem unnecessarily limiting?
Seeing as how Joe Maddon has insisted that Guyer was demoted simply because they were a bit thin in the bullpen, I'm left with one conclusion: the Rays don't have much faith in their current bullpen. And you know, I'm not entirely sure I blame them.
While the Rays have had a good bullpen ERA so far this year - 2.69, third best in the majors - the success hasn't necessarily been sustainable. Check this out:

Of the five regulars that are still in the bullpen (Brandon Gomes and Rob Delaney obviously just arrived), three of them don't look all that impressive. Juan Cruz and Adam Russell have both posted good ERAs so far, but their strikeout and walk numbers are very uninspiring. They are mainly succeeded by limited hits (unsustainably low BABIPs) and by keeping the ball in the park. And the same can be said about Cesar Ramos, except his ERA has more closely matched his FIP and xFIP so far this season.
Kyle Farnsworth and Joel Peralta are really the two arms in the bullpen that are putting up good, sustainable results; the rest look like they're holding things together with a bit of glue and duct tape. While I've got no problem with this for the time being - I still think Adam Russell, Juan Cruz, and Cesar Ramos have enough talent and upside that they'll improve - this does make me wonder if Maddon is hesitant to rely too much on any of these relievers at the moment. The Rays' current roster moves certainly seem to suggest that's the case; otherwise, I have no idea why Rob Delaney would be up instead of Brandon Guyer.
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I thought i read where BJ would miss the THUR game v CLE and FRI v O's
And since CLE is throwing 3 RHP is Casey really a “bench” player?
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i would agree, except that
he was included as a bullet point is Slow’s thread so we should ignore it?
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Notice I said DJ or CK.
Obviously one of those two is going to be on the bench at a time….just depends on the opposing pitcher.
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by Steve Slowinski on May 10, 2011 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions
So yeah, good point - Kotchman likely gets the majority of the starting time this series.
Platoon’d.
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by Steve Slowinski on May 10, 2011 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Not against Masterson
Masterson is an extreme GB pitcher. I’ll be disturbed if we go with Kotch and ignore the obvious GB/FB platoon disadvantage.
by Whelk on May 10, 2011 1:34 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Damn, another great point.
True, I hope DanJo gets the start against him. The GB splits makes that an easy matchup.
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by Steve Slowinski on May 10, 2011 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions
I love when that happens.
Means people are thinking things through more than me…more info and thought it always good.
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by Steve Slowinski on May 10, 2011 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions
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Thames, Farnsworth, Kotchman???
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by sternfan1 on Dec 27, 2010 11:47 AM
to his credit
While i think many of us had our eyes on better and amore powerful player, ie Branyan or Nick Johnson, signing Kotchman might have the lower risk for several reasons.
Branyan and N. Johnson simply have a difficult time staying healthy, Kotchman doesn’t appear to have a problem in this area. Also, if you ask either Johnson or Branyan to play 1B on a somewhat regular basis, it’ll further add to their injury issues
Lastly the Rays aren’t about to hand a job or give a contract to another player with a weak glove. We already signed Manny and Damon, both of who won’t be winning any gold gloves
Kotchman is a guy with decent MLB numbers who fields his position well and if DanJo fails won’t be intimidated by taking over 1B
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by sternfan1 on Jan 29, 2011 9:06 AM EST actions
by Jason Collette on May 10, 2011 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Haha, newbie.
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by Steve Slowinski on May 10, 2011 5:35 PM EDT up reply actions
lol
The caller said the boy, after removing the bulb from its socket, left the building and threw the bulb on the ground. When the bulb broke, the caller said the boy screamed "My electrolytes are down after the workout today…I fail"
by Top Gun Numba 1 on May 10, 2011 5:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Who's most likely to make way for J.P.?
Will they keep Ramos so they can retain some flexibility for J.P and send Delaney back down?
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Since we have but one LH SP i'd like to keep 2 in the pen
Delaney probably goes
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I diagree about the Cruz part.
Guys just are not getting much good contact off him.His command is bad, so guys will make contact and take walks. I just don’t see him giving up many hits.
.133 BABIP?
He has a career .289 rate. Even if he doesn’t give up many hits and limits solid contact, it’s still really, really low right now.
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by Steve Slowinski on May 10, 2011 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Thursday...tomorrow is TBA.
I’ll have a series preview at 3:30pm.
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by Steve Slowinski on May 10, 2011 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Carrasco tomorrow
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by Imperialism32 on May 10, 2011 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Ahh, good catch. Wasn't up on the Rays site, but I see it now.
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by Steve Slowinski on May 10, 2011 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions
BJ said thursday and friday would be his suspension days
He destroys Guthrie, who is on the bump Friday night….not so hot vs Masterson
by Jason Collette on May 10, 2011 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions
That's crazy
Considering how bad he is vs a lot of RHP, how he picks that guy is up is beyond me. I thought his numbers were worse than that — they’re very good against Guthrie though.
by Jason Collette on May 10, 2011 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Beej is a pretty good low ball hitter, so maybe that has something to do with it.I
It’s the RHP that can dial it up to 95 that gets him.
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I'm not saying it's universal, but you usually see B.J. struggle on fastballs up and in and sliders low and away.
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Masterson keeps things low and around the knees, pitches Beej has no problem picking out.
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BJ one hit vs Masterson last year and sat the second time JM started vs the Rays
Are we assuming Masterson is the same pitcher as in 2009 and before?
The part I don't really get is why Sonny is even starting tonight.
We had the off day yesterday and could have very easily just skipped the 5th starters spot this time through. Then we could have kept a more robust bench with Guyer and still have our beloved 7 man pen with Sonny hanging back until the next time through.
Want to keep Price/Shields on line for the 2-game NYY series probably
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by Imperialism32 on May 10, 2011 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Correct
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by Imperialism32 on May 10, 2011 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Sonny wouldn't have been able to poitch in the CLE series
from the pen, as we’ll need a SP for Saturday
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Sonnanstine is a shoe-in tonight.
He doesn’t have to face Ben Fransisco who was 8-10 with 5 HR’s against him.
So far we've been able to hide our bullpen because of great outings by our starting pitching
Hopefully our starters can continue to throw well, but we might start to see some cracks in our pen when we take on the Yankees coming up soon.
I wouldn't say that our BP is being hidden
our SP has been great so far, minus a few bad outings, but the BP is doing what they are supposed to do. Preserving leads and bailing out the SP when they are tiring or sucking. The BP is holding it’s own against some quality teams and in some tight spots on occasion. Whether or not our BP cracks against the Yankees will soon be tested but they have shown some nuts over the 1st quarter of the season. If our BP is being hidden by anything, I think it would be by Maddon using the guys in the right spots, which has made them more effective than they may have been elsewhere.
The last couple times I saw Sonny out of the pen
He didn’t throw a pitch over 84 mph. He use to have 89 or so when he was starting, what the hell happened?























