Matt Joyce Homers Again, Rays Hang On To Beat Jays 6-5
You never want to see a six run lead shrivel down to just one, but as long as you win the game the details don't matter so much. The Rays started a long road trip off on the right foot tonight.
Jeremy Hellickson was very much in control through five innings, allowing just one hit and two runs. The sixth inning proved to be a bit different, and Jose Bautista wasn't even the problem. Hellickson allowed doubles to Corey Patterson and Aaron Hill, a walk to Arencibia, and a single to Eric Thames. With the Rays' lead now down to two, and two men on base with two outs, Maddon decided to bring in Juan Cruz to face Rajai Davis, who grounded out. Hellickson had thrown just 89 pitches, but he was laboring in the sixth, missing up in the zone and not showing the effectiveness he needed. I'm confident Hellickson could have retired Davis - he's not a great hitter - but I trust a rested Cruz more in that situation than a clearly struggling Hellickson.
Once again Hellickson's changeup was utterly disgusting. He threw it 38 times for 27 strikes, 10 of the swinging variety. After his departure the bullpen held down the fort, allowing only one hit over the final 3.1 innings. The most interesting situation arose in the 7th inning. The Jays were down just two at this point and Yunel Escobar on first base with two outs. Joe Maddon called for Cesar Ramos to intentionally walk Jose Bautista, bringing the go ahead run to the plate in the form of Aaron Hill. The move paid off as Hill flew out to shallow right field. That was the ultimate sign of respect for Bauttista, and he deserves it. No one is better than he is right now. Taking your chances with Hill, no matter what you think his current talent level may be, is better than challenging Bautista in my opinion.
Tonight's offense was all created in the second and third innings with help from the hilariously awful Blue Jays' defense who committed four errors during those frames. Watching Edwin Encarnacion play first base was one of the highlights of the baseball season for me, and that's not a compliment. The offensive stars were, of course, Matt Joyce and also, not as obviously, Elliott Johnson. Joyce clubbed his 7th home run of the season in the third, while Johnson collected a double and his first career triple in route to a three RBI night. There's not much opposing right handed pitchers can do right now against Joyce. He's not quite at the Jose Bautista level, but he's currently the next best thing against righties.
- To reiterate, the bullpen was great tonight. Joel Peralta again pitched more than one inning, this time going 1.1 innings of scoreless ball. I don't think there is a better and more cost effective 1-2 punch in the back of a bullpen right now. Perhaps the Marlins.
- J.P. Howell rejoins the team Friday. If he can come back healthy, a Cruz, Howell, Peralta, Farnsworth high leverage team has the potential to be scary good.
- Props to Elliott Johnson. His play over the last two games has been excellent.
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Elliot Johnson
is hitting the cover off the ball right now! And his fielding has been spot on as well. You better watch your back Reid.
Sons of Plunder
Not mentioned in recap:
Matt Joyce’s phenomenal running catch of Aaron Hills “groundout to shallow right” that saved the run and perhaps the game in the 7th.
that flare had me worried for a sec
but thankfully Joyce is getting everything his way right now. he’s hot in every sense of the term
by miamigirl54 on May 19, 2011 12:42 AM EDT up reply actions
Your double entendres take my breath away
@SandyKazmir
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by blackraven on May 5, 2011 3:46 PM EDT
by Sandy Kazmir on May 19, 2011 8:47 AM EDT up reply actions
Another great game for Joyce, but you might want to change Hill's inning ending groundball to a short popper that Joyce had to run a long way to get
Dude’s been getting it done both ways. I would have liked to see BenZo roll up that easy DP, maybe Helly goes a little deeper. Nice to see he’s human after the long outing last game.
@SandyKazmir
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by blackraven on May 5, 2011 3:46 PM EDT
by Sandy Kazmir on May 19, 2011 12:12 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
Why is it nice that he's human
And not a CGSObot?
@staplemaniac
by staplemaniac on May 19, 2011 1:10 AM EDT up reply actions
I want more, I want to see more, I want to see him do better, things that he can work on such as durability and stamina come pretty naturally so it's nice to know that we haven't seen the apex quite yet
@SandyKazmir
Yes I've only been a fan since 2009. You got me.
by blackraven on May 5, 2011 3:46 PM EDT
by Sandy Kazmir on May 19, 2011 8:48 AM EDT up reply actions
Hopefully the success of Joyce forces Maddon to sit Fuld tomorrow vs Romero
Romero has some reverse splits and well Fuld just looks horrible out there lately.
PIZZA?!?
hopefully
joyce is on a tear, don’t sit him out. fuld can take a healthy day off. maybe learn how to bunt on the sidelines or something. better yet, have him and reid sit out and they both take some BP elsewhere
by miamigirl54 on May 19, 2011 12:40 AM EDT up reply actions
Isn't Reyes throwing tomorrow?
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by Jason Collette on May 19, 2011 1:38 AM EDT up reply actions
If Johnson has another good game tomorrow
when do we start “riding him while he is hot” like are with Kotchman
I feel the same way
Why Reid is still getting most of the starts right now is beyond me. Start Elliot!
Sons of Plunder
agree
elliot needs to start, sitting reid might give him the chance to remember how to hit.
by miamigirl54 on May 19, 2011 12:39 AM EDT up reply actions
When has he known how to hit?
EJ all the way
I'm all for riding the hot hand..
just don’t expect EJ to continue to mash out of his mind like this. That’s whats been great about this team is when someone is faltering we usually have someone to pick him up. I’m really hoping Briggy figures is out because it’s just bad for the orginization as a whole if he fails. And really all we need from him is modest production to justify his glove.
@StephenAMG
by BOHICA_ALEast on May 19, 2011 5:48 AM EDT up reply actions
YES!!!!
It was awesome to get home last night and see EJ get another start. About $#$^ time. Sounds like Maddon is taking notice.
by smithhasaname on May 19, 2011 8:32 AM EDT up reply actions
You know that he's only had two good at bats, right? Did you see that awful drag bunt that went straight to first like a croquet ball that he really got into?
I’m glad he’s showing something, but we should probably trade him at his peak value
@SandyKazmir
Yes I've only been a fan since 2009. You got me.
by blackraven on May 5, 2011 3:46 PM EDT
by Sandy Kazmir on May 19, 2011 8:52 AM EDT up reply actions
Trade our utility man? For what, a bag of balls? This is fucking stupid.
by pudieron89 on May 19, 2011 9:08 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
You act as if utlity men aren't widely available
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by Erik Hahmann on May 19, 2011 9:13 AM EDT up reply actions
Reply fail?
If a team doesn’t have a AAAA player available to fill infield and/or outfield spots, then I don’t know what to tell you. Johnson =/= Omar Infante.
by pudieron89 on May 19, 2011 9:16 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
First of all let me say this Casey Kotchman had n awful game last night
and with a LHP on the mound tonight, he should sit after 11 straight starts.
That being said, BJ Upton two nights on a row strikes out with a man on 3B and less than two outs, where , where making some sort of contact, surely brings in a very important run in both cases.
I would lash out at whomever was at the plate in this situation and had the same result, yes even Casey Kotchman
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The bases were loaded
for BJ . A groundball could result in a double play.Any kind of contact does not apply in that situation.
Absolutely they were loaded, but turning a DP as we saw earlier from that prous
defense requires three successful actions, catching the GB, and then two accurately timed throws and catched. In other words, it’s a ball in play and falls under the percentages of BABIP
When you K, it’s over, nothing happens, no chance to score, zilch
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Babip would mark it as an out due to Fielder's Choice and would result in a babip of .000 for the AB assuming they get the first runner but not the second, which is what you're talking about
@SandyKazmir
Yes I've only been a fan since 2009. You got me.
by blackraven on May 5, 2011 3:46 PM EDT
by Sandy Kazmir on May 19, 2011 8:56 AM EDT up reply actions
Well he did make contact
With the catchers glove, and it went uncalled.
by GomesSweetGomes on May 19, 2011 9:15 AM EDT up reply actions
The game last night
gives us an example of what the Rays should avoid. The defense of the Jays is awful.They gave us that game.Except for the ground ball that Longo looked helpless on and the bad play by Zobo ,our better play in the field was the difference.
I don't know if you have heard or not, but he had a lasik procedure done so he would definitely make that play now.
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by Passionate Apathy on May 19, 2011 9:57 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Also, did you know that Jonah Keri wrote a book about the Rays?
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by Passionate Apathy on May 19, 2011 9:59 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Get out! I loved him in that book where he had to go into the belly of the beast
@SandyKazmir
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by blackraven on May 5, 2011 3:46 PM EDT
by Sandy Kazmir on May 19, 2011 10:01 AM EDT up reply actions
Yes
At 1b the balls are hit just as hard. Longo had the heel of his glove to high to make that play.
Being a lefty would have helped Kotch make that play
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by Erik Hahmann on May 19, 2011 8:11 AM EDT up reply actions
Tonight's line up v Reyes
Zobrist RF
Rodriguez 2B
Damon DH
Longoria 3B
Joyce LF
Upton CF
Johnson SS
Johnson 1B
Shoppach C
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I am perfectly OK with this
But I might put Upton over Joyce
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by Erik Hahmann on May 19, 2011 8:12 AM EDT up reply actions
Joyce is really hot right now, and i'm thinking later in the game
a pitcher has to face Longo/Joyce back to back
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I think Upton vs a LHP for, lets say, 6 innings, is better than the possibility of Joyce facing a RHP...
later in the game
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by Erik Hahmann on May 19, 2011 8:35 AM EDT up reply actions
I'd lead Upton off
And Keep Joyce parked right where he is. I’d drop Sean Rod to #6.
I like 2-5 being set for a spell, but then again I want to return to Jaso/BJ splitting leadoff duties so I am a little biased.
They said DanJo is starting tonight
Romero will be the 1st LH starter the Rays have faced since May 6th
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by Jason Collette on May 19, 2011 9:25 AM EDT up reply actions
Mr. Sternfan
Do you put Danjo at 1b because Joe wants to rest Kotch during the long road trip?.Do you think Joe is going to keep using Danjo against lefties the rest of the year.?Or is there another reason?
Many reasons
1- Kotch has played 11 straight and looks like he needs a break
2-Dan Jo is slightly better v LHP
3- Joe uses his entire 25 man roster, and Dan Jo sitting so much seems odd
As for the remainder, given Kotch v Dan Jo i think that battle has been won (Kotch). However i think if Kotch stops hitting or even if he doesn’t Friedman will be on the look out for a bat closer to the ASB and that could alter things
Hope i answered
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by sternfan1 on May 19, 2011 8:24 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Hey Sternfan1 and LardLad, bite my bag

@SandyKazmir
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by blackraven on May 5, 2011 3:46 PM EDT
I know a lady
that reads palms. Her name is Madom Chakta.She would be very interested in your charts.
Joe should only play Caseman when he knows his hits are going to get through, he should bench him when they're going to go to fielders
-Sternfan1 on sample size
@SandyKazmir
Yes I've only been a fan since 2009. You got me.
by blackraven on May 5, 2011 3:46 PM EDT
by Sandy Kazmir on May 19, 2011 9:00 AM EDT up reply actions
The beauty of numbers is that you don't need hocus pocus like palm-reading. It's much easier to spot a fraud when you see things like this compared to a nice old lady with gypsy scarves and crystal balls.
@SandyKazmir
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by blackraven on May 5, 2011 3:46 PM EDT
by Sandy Kazmir on May 19, 2011 8:59 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
I approve of the Gus avatar
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by Erik Hahmann on May 19, 2011 9:14 AM EDT up reply actions
Somebody needs to stand up for good, honest work around here instead of sensationalizing and chasing awards
@SandyKazmir
Yes I've only been a fan since 2009. You got me.
by blackraven on May 5, 2011 3:46 PM EDT
by Sandy Kazmir on May 19, 2011 9:15 AM EDT up reply actions
Just no scalping and it's all cool
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by Erik Hahmann on May 19, 2011 9:29 AM EDT up reply actions
Why in the hell did our Gillette overlords put Kenny Mayne in a Rays jersey to sell their razors? To my knowledge he has never been a fan.
What a disgrace
@SandyKazmir
Yes I've only been a fan since 2009. You got me.
by blackraven on May 5, 2011 3:46 PM EDT
Ugh that was so clearly ball four. I couldn't believe he went after that pitch and then he did his usual temper tantrum of throwing the bat down and half-heartedly jogging out of the box
What a baby
@SandyKazmir
Yes I've only been a fan since 2009. You got me.
by blackraven on May 5, 2011 3:46 PM EDT
by Sandy Kazmir on May 19, 2011 9:33 AM EDT up reply actions
the biggest fail belongs to the batter who struck out with less than 2 outs, not once but twice
in successive games.
And as i clearly state above Kotch had an awful game
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Rather a K than a double play
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by Erik Hahmann on May 19, 2011 9:45 AM EDT up reply actions
yes the Jays were so adept at turning those, huh?
and BJ can run a little bit, right?
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If a guy hasn't called a pitch all game and a pitcher continued to throw it you would call him stupid, when the ump hasn't been calling a spot all game and then B.J. strikes out on a pitch there you think lesser of him
Show a little consistency
@SandyKazmir
Yes I've only been a fan since 2009. You got me.
by blackraven on May 5, 2011 3:46 PM EDT
by Sandy Kazmir on May 19, 2011 9:46 AM EDT up reply actions
1- that pitch via brookstone was a strike
2- whether or not it was being called, it was way too close to take with 2 strikes
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We all know that if it's close and full Beej is taking where he's got maybe a 50-50 chance of taking the walk, if he swings a lot more bad things can happen including still striking out
The guy made a good pitch in a big spot after getting away with a catcher’s interference a pitch prior. I’ll make excuses for Beej all day because he’s one of the best players on this team. Over the last half decade and hopefully, beyond.
@SandyKazmir
Yes I've only been a fan since 2009. You got me.
by blackraven on May 5, 2011 3:46 PM EDT
by Sandy Kazmir on May 19, 2011 9:51 AM EDT up reply actions
your last sentence says volumes on your stance, there's no further reason to debate
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You're right, when you're a contributor you should have a longer leash.
@SandyKazmir
Yes I've only been a fan since 2009. You got me.
by blackraven on May 5, 2011 3:46 PM EDT
by Sandy Kazmir on May 19, 2011 9:55 AM EDT up reply actions
not exactly what i meant
you should have followed Manny’s career in Cle, and you’d know what i’m talking about
BJ in many respects is Manny Jr
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Wait, I thought you weren't an Indians fan?
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by Jason Collette on May 19, 2011 9:59 AM EDT up reply actions
What in the hell does this even mean? Fans only like him when he does things well? I'm guessing Belle was not your favorite player during The Run?
@SandyKazmir
Yes I've only been a fan since 2009. You got me.
by blackraven on May 5, 2011 3:46 PM EDT
by Sandy Kazmir on May 19, 2011 10:00 AM EDT up reply actions
The way Maddon argued it, he clearly thought it was a bad pitch as well
Yes, BJ needs to do a better job of protecting the plate with 2 strikes – it’s a problem. That said, nobody in their goddamn mind should be swinging at a pitch a full effin’ foot above the strike zone in a full count.. Especially not a major league veteran with a proven command of the strike zone. He has his mind up he was going to swing no matter what so he either misread the pitch as a hanging splitter out of Frasor’s hand or he was pulling a Rex Grossman and saying “F it, I’m going deep”
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by Jason Collette on May 19, 2011 9:47 AM EDT up reply actions
if Kotch had done what BJ had (striking out twice with less than 2 outs and the bases loaded)
i’d be all over him
this is where you’rte getting personal and it’s glaring
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Reeeeeeeeeeeeaching
Yesterday’s writeup, I said the only thing worse that BJ striking out in that situation would be GIDP. With the bases loaded, he could have easily bounced into a 5-2-3 double play as I’m pretty certain E5/3 can catch a ball thrown to him at the chest.
I was equally pissed off 2 nights ago as I was last night with failing to produce a single run with them loaded and no outs but I"m going to be more pissed at Kotchman last night who was given ball four and he decided to swing at. Someone with his professional experience cannot be excused for chasing the equivalent of a fastball in the dirt in a full count with them loaded.
sternfan10 -" i am one stupid SOB #Rays #DRB"
by Jason Collette on May 19, 2011 9:55 AM EDT up reply actions
E5 is essentially Willy Aybar minus the wife-beating (or not, I'm no judge) thanks for pumping him up and me wasting a fantasy pick on him
@SandyKazmir
Yes I've only been a fan since 2009. You got me.
by blackraven on May 5, 2011 3:46 PM EDT
by Sandy Kazmir on May 19, 2011 9:57 AM EDT up reply actions
I play two leagues, hoser
@SandyKazmir
Yes I've only been a fan since 2009. You got me.
by blackraven on May 5, 2011 3:46 PM EDT
by Sandy Kazmir on May 19, 2011 9:58 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah my $100 buy in league for big money chumpslice
@SandyKazmir
Yes I've only been a fan since 2009. You got me.
by blackraven on May 5, 2011 3:46 PM EDT
by Sandy Kazmir on May 19, 2011 9:59 AM EDT up reply actions
Hey, at least you didn't draft him in 5 leagues
sternfan10 -" i am one stupid SOB #Rays #DRB"
by Jason Collette on May 19, 2011 9:58 AM EDT up reply actions
Woof, your fantasy advice license should be pulled
The caller said the boy, after removing the bulb from its socket, left the building and threw the bulb on the ground. When the bulb broke, the caller said the boy screamed "My electrolytes are down after the workout today…I fail"
by Top Gun Numba 1 on May 19, 2011 9:59 AM EDT up reply actions
and yet I'm leading 2 of them
boom goes the dynamite
sternfan10 -" i am one stupid SOB #Rays #DRB"
by Jason Collette on May 19, 2011 9:59 AM EDT up reply actions
Flukes are flukes
The caller said the boy, after removing the bulb from its socket, left the building and threw the bulb on the ground. When the bulb broke, the caller said the boy screamed "My electrolytes are down after the workout today…I fail"
by Top Gun Numba 1 on May 19, 2011 10:00 AM EDT up reply actions
A trade 2 guys made in one league....if you want to revoke licenses.
Reservoir Doigs will trade away
Pena, Carlos
Clippard, Tyler
Iannetta, Chris
Special Patrol Group will trade away
Ramirez, Hanley
That might be the worst deal in the history of baseball
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by Jason Collette on May 19, 2011 10:02 AM EDT up reply actions
I know you're new to this site, but its about time you learned to master the reply button.
Also for that to be the worst deal in the history of baseball you would have to be sure Hanley is going to turn it around. Obviously Special Patrol Group has his/her doubts
The caller said the boy, after removing the bulb from its socket, left the building and threw the bulb on the ground. When the bulb broke, the caller said the boy screamed "My electrolytes are down after the workout today…I fail"
by Top Gun Numba 1 on May 19, 2011 10:04 AM EDT up reply actions
He's a stoner..I'm guessing he was high last night
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by Jason Collette on May 19, 2011 10:06 AM EDT up reply actions
What is a Doig
The caller said the boy, after removing the bulb from its socket, left the building and threw the bulb on the ground. When the bulb broke, the caller said the boy screamed "My electrolytes are down after the workout today…I fail"
by Top Gun Numba 1 on May 19, 2011 10:07 AM EDT up reply actions
a dude's last name
sternfan10 -" i am one stupid SOB #Rays #DRB"
by Jason Collette on May 19, 2011 10:09 AM EDT up reply actions
Woof
The caller said the boy, after removing the bulb from its socket, left the building and threw the bulb on the ground. When the bulb broke, the caller said the boy screamed "My electrolytes are down after the workout today…I fail"
by Top Gun Numba 1 on May 19, 2011 10:10 AM EDT up reply actions
Ugh
@SandyKazmir
Yes I've only been a fan since 2009. You got me.
by blackraven on May 5, 2011 3:46 PM EDT
by Sandy Kazmir on May 19, 2011 9:59 AM EDT up reply actions
Just a question
Was Maddon chirping about the pitch or the lack of the catcher interference call? Or both?
Does it matter?
@SandyKazmir
Yes I've only been a fan since 2009. You got me.
by blackraven on May 5, 2011 3:46 PM EDT
by Sandy Kazmir on May 19, 2011 9:53 AM EDT up reply actions
Cameras didn't show Maddon reacting to anything until after the strike 3 call
so I have to assume he was bitching about strike 3
sternfan10 -" i am one stupid SOB #Rays #DRB"
by Jason Collette on May 19, 2011 9:51 AM EDT up reply actions
thanks
was wondering if there were any post game quotes, haven’t had a chance to dig through. Would love to hear Joe discuss the inning.
The press site hasn't posted the post-game notes yet
They typically put up a PDF file of the transcripts from the post-game presser for us but nothing up there yet.
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by Jason Collette on May 19, 2011 9:57 AM EDT up reply actions
From the St. Pete Times
NO CONTACT: Maddon said he couldn’t see from the dugout what looked on the replays like catcher’s interference during B.J. Upton’s ninth-inning at-bat, and Upton didn’t say anything. By the end, both were much more upset at umpire Tim Welke’s called third strike than the non-called interference.
by Gareth Rees on May 19, 2011 10:25 AM EDT up reply actions
Haha, only the Cubs
http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?content_id=14908519&topic_id=11493214&c_id=mlb
@SandyKazmir
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by blackraven on May 5, 2011 3:46 PM EDT
That's awesome.
Disregarded was the point that Cairo appeared to concede first base and was moving nowhere in that direction for several seconds and was basically back to his dugout .
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by Passionate Apathy on May 19, 2011 10:25 AM EDT up reply actions
Yea, no call for being that far out of the baseline?
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by Jason Collette on May 19, 2011 10:45 AM EDT up reply actions
Rule 6.09(b) the batter was out. blatant disregard for the rules by the umpire
Rule 6.09(b) Comment: A batter who does not realize his situation on a third strike not caught, and who is not in the process of running to first base, shall be declared out once he leaves the dirt circle surrounding home plate.
Yeah saw the discussion on Fangraphs looks like he should have been out
Only the Cubs, Garza probably broke his hand after that inning
@SandyKazmir
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by blackraven on May 5, 2011 3:46 PM EDT
by Sandy Kazmir on May 19, 2011 10:48 AM EDT up reply actions
In the video
the homeplate umpire watches the batter leave the circle. It baffling how he could not kow the rule.

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