Justin Ruggiano, J.P. Howell Added to Rays; Dan Johnson, Rob Delaney Get the Boot
by Steve Slowinski on May 20, 2011 1:40 PM EDT
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The Tampa Bay Rays have reinstated left-handed pitcher J.P. Howell from the 15-day disabled list. In addition, outfielder Justin Ruggiano was selected from Triple-A Durham. To make room on the roster, right-handed pitcher Rob Delaney was optioned to Durham and infielder Dan Johnson was designated for assignment.
Rob Delaney getting sent down for J.P. Howell is no surprise, as someone had to go from the 'pen and he hasn't impressed as much as Brandon Gomes has. Howell will give the Rays another high-leverage reliever (assuming he's still the same pitcher he was a year and a half ago), and his presence will allow Maddon to use Cesar Ramos in more of a traditional left-handed specialist role. This move optimizes and solidifies the Rays' bullpen, and I'm pretty excited to see Howell in action again. The Rays will likely take it easy with him to begin with, but it still feels really good to have him back in the 'pen.
As for the Dan Johnson / Justin Ruggiano swap....I'm not a fan, but possibly not for the reason you'd expect.
It doesn't have to do with choosing Kotchman over Johnson; I've reconciled myself with Casey Kotchman at this point, and I'll freely admit that he's given the Rays much more production this season and looked much better at the plate than Johnson. He's playing like a rejuvenated player and heck, as much as I think he's going to regress going forward, the Rays are better served right now playing him instead of Johnson. And considering that Felipe Lopez slipped through waivers earlier this year, my guess is that Dan Johnson will make it through too and the Rays can let him work out his issues in Triple-A. I don't want to say goodbye to the Great Pumpkin yet, so I'm not going to say it until we know for sure where he lands.
But....Justin Ruggiano? Really? If we're going to call up another outfielder, why not make it Brandon Guyer or Desmond Jennings? They've both been playing exceptionally well this season, and while I know the Rays want to manipulate service time to make sure neither player is a Super Two, there's at least a decent chance that rule is done away with this off season in the CBA negotiations. If anything, I don't think the Rays need to worry about Guyer being a Super Two, and I'd much prefer having him up instead of Ruggs.
To look on the bright side, Justin Ruggiano has been impressive this season down in Triple-A. He's walking at his highest rate since 2006 (10%) and has reduced his strikeout rate to an all-time low (23%), and he's been blistering the ball (6 HRs, .398 wOBA). He's 29 years old and no longer a prospect, but you never know what can happen: maybe Ruggs has legitimately improved himself recently and become a much better player. It's probably worthwhile that the Rays give him a chance at least, and you could certainly ask for worse stop-gags.
But I think that's what frustrates me most about the move: Ruggiano is a stop-gag solution. He's not a solution to the Rays' offensive woes, and he's likely just a moderate upgrade to our bench. The Rays are in first place right now, but the Yankees and Red Sox are both within two games of them; do we really think we can hold with those clubs if we keep running out daily lineups that feature Sam Fuld, Elliot Johnson, and Justin Ruggiano? We've gotten lucky so far with the hot streaks from Fuld and Kotchman, but how long can we trust to luck to keep our offense afloat? The Rays need a potential everyday outfielder like Jennings or Guyer out there, someone who can turn Sam Fuld back into a fourth outfielder, and I don't think Justin Ruggiano is that player.
As with every move the Rays have done this season, there are both reasons to like the move and reasons to dislike it. But if nothing else, I think this makes one thing clear: the Rays are more concerned with 2012 (and beyond) than they are with 2011. Can I blame them? No, not at all - it's a good strategy. It just means we're going to have to continue to watch a frustrating lineup for at least another month.
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If Guyer/Jennings wasn't up already they were going to wait for the dates to pass
So Ruggiano doesn’t surprise me at all.
I'm not sure if you're serious...If you are, the reasons are simple:
1) Dutton’s xBABIP has to be input by hand, so it takes a long time to calculate.
2) I do this for free.
by BWoodrum
Stll waiting for that magic date on Jennings to pass, I get it
But adding Ruggs back to the 40 man instead of bringing Guyer back? The hell?
Under construction
The Dude's back...but Ruggiano tempers that excitement
sternfan10 -" i am one stupid SOB #Rays #DRB"
The plan better not me to make Joyce platoon but let Sam Fuld continue to play every day
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Agreed.
I’m all for letting Joyce hit against both hands right now.
I love Casey Fossum. Now try and take me seriously. -- @steveslow
by Steve Slowinski on May 20, 2011 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions
My guess is Johnson lands in Triple-A, works out his issues, and is ready for once the love affair with Kotchman dies.
It sucks, but I’m thinking he’ll still be the last man standing….though I guess we’ll see.
Ruggs though….ugh. This lineup really needs Jennings or Guyer.
I love Casey Fossum. Now try and take me seriously. -- @steveslow
by Steve Slowinski on May 20, 2011 1:47 PM EDT reply actions
You forgot the el movement
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by Passionate Apathy on May 20, 2011 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions
This is the biggest sign the rapture is indeed going to happen
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by Jason Collette on May 20, 2011 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, I hear you.
In hindsight, of preview-post-cancel, cancel may have been the best option.
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by Passionate Apathy on May 20, 2011 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions
watching this on Twitter should be fun
BradleyWoodrum: Kotchman’s May OPS: .748. Last 40 PAs: .589. All with a normal BABIP. #Rays DFA’d the wrong 1B.
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Everyone do the SternFan!
::stirs troll pot::
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by BWoodrum on May 20, 2011 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Ruggiano, Fuld, Elliot, Brignac, Kotchman
Would be an average bench.
Vroom vroom party starter
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Our offense is really lackluster.
I’m not exactly optimistic about the next month, tbh.
I love Casey Fossum. Now try and take me seriously. -- @steveslow
by Steve Slowinski on May 20, 2011 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Prior to the season
I hoped the Rays could hang around until Mid-June or Mid-July and begin to acquire some offensive support.
I hoped the Rays would follow the S.F. Giants model from last year. First move would be to bring up from our system (Desmond Jennings) like the Giants did with Posey.
After that, Friedman can start collecting bats from around the league.
Here’s to hoping that we stay relevant over the next month!
AL East vs. NL West
Jennings won’t be up for another month to a month and a half, and who knows when people will start making trades. I guess I just don’t see us hanging around that long. And in this division, there’s not much room for slipping.
I love Casey Fossum. Now try and take me seriously. -- @steveslow
by Steve Slowinski on May 20, 2011 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions
I heard
the AL East v NL West comp all winter long. Look at the NL West last year, not a horrible division.
Indians dealt Branyan around first week of June last year I believe.
Jennings should be here around AS break right?
Eh, if the Rays only had to get to 92 wins to get into the playoffs, I'd feel a lot better.
But the difference between 92 wins and 95 wins is a bit rough.
I love Casey Fossum. Now try and take me seriously. -- @steveslow
by Steve Slowinski on May 20, 2011 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions
It's 2011
92 wins might get you to the post-season! The AL East is not as strong as it has been in the past. Keep the faith, its not a stretch.
We've played some bad teams so far
The schedule gets tougher now. Hopefully we can hang
Travels at 140,000 mph. Produces 500 megajoules of energy. Originates from the heavens.
I agree, this next month could be tough
But then I look at that terrible start to the season and think that we haven’t simply been a lucky team all year. We’ve had plenty of bad luck as well.
Why not give Ruggianio a chance
The Durham call-ups have played reasonably well, for a time, when they have a chance. See what he can do.
AAAA
Maddon's Mission
Make you want to kill him, then make you want to love him. Sly.
by Jonah Keri on Jun 19, 2010 10:31 PM EDT
I'm all for giving him a chance
Travels at 140,000 mph. Produces 500 megajoules of energy. Originates from the heavens.
So on the Guyer v Ruggs debate
Guyer could play everyday platooning between the corners or subbing in CF for tough BJ matchups
They’ve had Ruggiano in the organization for several years now so they know what they have but Sonnanstine and both Johnsons are on the 25 and he is not. Durham is a cozy hitter’s park for RH batters — a lot of pretty slash lines have been put up there in the past. Teams such as Seattle and Houston had awful OF situations this off-season and still didn’t claim Ruggiano so there has to be a back-story there somewhere. There have been rumblings of problems from the neck up.
by Jason Collette on May 16, 2011 2:50 PM EDT up rep
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I really think this move isn't a result of talent level or anything, but comes down solely to service time.
Who cares about Ruggs? It’s why we’re slotting Sonny into the rotation right now instead of Cobb or someone better. The Rays aren’t bothering to use any of their top minor leaguers this season…at least not until later on.
I love Casey Fossum. Now try and take me seriously. -- @steveslow
by Steve Slowinski on May 20, 2011 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions
My pick 6 for today is great.
I'm not sure if you're serious...If you are, the reasons are simple:
1) Dutton’s xBABIP has to be input by hand, so it takes a long time to calculate.
2) I do this for free.
by BWoodrum
Hrm?
Better have The Kotch in there.
I love Casey Fossum. Now try and take me seriously. -- @steveslow
by Steve Slowinski on May 20, 2011 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions
It's all Marlins. Sonny pitching.
I'm not sure if you're serious...If you are, the reasons are simple:
1) Dutton’s xBABIP has to be input by hand, so it takes a long time to calculate.
2) I do this for free.
by BWoodrum
by SRQman on May 20, 2011 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
lol, well played.
I love Casey Fossum. Now try and take me seriously. -- @steveslow
by Steve Slowinski on May 20, 2011 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions
You apparently don't get the move either
Guyer and Jennings are going to play every day, and Jennings could be a S. Guyer has but 140 AAA PA. This move was as clear as the nose on your face. At least to me it was
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What? I think we're both saying essentially the same thing.
In that The Future > 2011. Guyer and Jennings are both the future, so yeah, the Rays are going to be patient with them and not rush them or their service time.
But my point is that right now, I’d still say both of them are still better players than Justin Ruggs. This move isn’t about putting the best player on the team, but about getting a stopgag up that can fill in until those guys can be promoted.
I love Casey Fossum. Now try and take me seriously. -- @steveslow
by Steve Slowinski on May 20, 2011 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions
I guess I'm ok with Guyer getting more work because
he only has 149 PA in AAA. Get him some more work.
I'm not sure if you're serious...If you are, the reasons are simple:
1) Dutton’s xBABIP has to be input by hand, so it takes a long time to calculate.
2) I do this for free.
by BWoodrum
Correct
Anyone who thinks this decision is one based on talent has blinders on
Players don’t play 490 games in AAA if they’re that good
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by Jason Collette on May 20, 2011 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Only 51 more than the guy he is replacing
Same guy projected as .344 wOBA from ZiPs and a .369 from Billy James
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and that guy just got DFA'd
I made that same point earlier…DanJo was amazing in AAA and we saw what he did at the MLB level. Ruggiano has had chances before and has looked awful in them, both at the plate and in the field. I hope to hell he does more this time as it is needed, but my expectations are right about where DanJo left them.
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by Jason Collette on May 20, 2011 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Definitely
Not a result of talent in any way shape or form, more a result of baseball politics.
From the way the Rays play politics (service time etc) this is the most logical move right now.
Ruggiano is still on the shortest leash and should enjoy every minute he is up here. One intriguing DFA from another organization and he is gonzo!
In other news
I am going to predict that JP went the way of Longoria and not Dave Martinez. I say he returns clean shaven.
Under construction
I'm hoping for a Moses-esque beard by season's end.
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Now about that 40 man spot
Rays have an open 40 man spot since Lopez was DFA’d
and Ruggiano still hasn’t been put on to fill it. That’s rather telling in its own right. Not to mention, his slash line thus far looks a lot like DanJo’s from 2010 and we saw where that went.
by Jason Collette on May 16, 2011 1:57 PM E
follow me on twitter @sternfan10
I quit
Steve, please give my spot to Sternfan. He’s clearly much better at this than I am.
Designate me for assignment somewhere
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by Jason Collette on May 20, 2011 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions
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Thames, Farnsworth, Kotchman???
and you wonder why people are picking us lastfollow me on twitter @sternfan10
by sternfan1 on Dec 27, 2010 11:47 AM EST actions
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by Jason Collette on May 20, 2011 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
don't get dizzy from that spin
You were shitting on the closer and your savior at 1B, regardless of when those guys were signed.
sternfan10 -" i am one stupid SOB #Rays #DRB"
by Jason Collette on May 20, 2011 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions
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you do realize that at this point taking them would mean
removing someone from their own 40 man. Every team in MLB has their own Ruggianofollow me on twitter @sternfan10
by sternfan1 on Feb 11, 2011 3:01 PM EST
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by Jason Collette on May 20, 2011 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions
i'm not getting into a pissing match with you now
i’m having way to much fun, in fact i just got invited on the Sports Babe as a Rays expert
follow me on twitter @sternfan10
The who?
sternfan10 -" i am one stupid SOB #Rays #DRB"
by Jason Collette on May 20, 2011 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions
I remember those posts!
Man, on December 27th, pre-Manny and pre-Damon signings there were a bunch of WTF are the Rays doing posts flying around everywhere!
Don’t mistake this as a supportive post to the author of the blue box comment, just love looking back over the winter at the frustrations as the team transitioned its roster over and then the MAD EXCITEMENT when Damon/Manny was signed.
Now, we sit in 1st place in the AL East, good times! I believe Woody Hashtagged something today about things he didnt expect in December referencing the bullpen….good times!
I wasn't worried about the pen.
It’s the offense that still scares me.
I'm not sure if you're serious...If you are, the reasons are simple:
1) Dutton’s xBABIP has to be input by hand, so it takes a long time to calculate.
2) I do this for free.
by BWoodrum
yeah
The offense has lacked some consistency and for all its positive metrics, it still has an alarming number of games of 2 runs or less. But the offense can get cleaned up as the calendar turns deeper and deeper into the season, that’s the good news!
It's surviving this storm
and hoping Jennings/Guyer and others come up and don’t take much time to make the transition.
I'm not sure if you're serious...If you are, the reasons are simple:
1) Dutton’s xBABIP has to be input by hand, so it takes a long time to calculate.
2) I do this for free.
by BWoodrum
congrats as your balance went from -10,000 to -9,900
sternfan10 -" i am one stupid SOB #Rays #DRB"
by Jason Collette on May 20, 2011 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Where is the Guyer love coming from?
He had a hell of a first at bat, that’s for sure, but I certainly wouldn’t be expecting that much from him if he were called up. As for Jennings though, it really is about time for him to join the big leagues permanently and I’m guessing he will when super 2 eligibility passes.
Not expecting Guyer to be our very own Jose Bautista
But do you really want Ruggiano over him?
Under construction
who on earth
would “want” Ruggiano over Guyer? But with the way the Rays handle baseball operations, this is the logical move.
I like the move to a point.
I would have been ok with Ruggs or Guyer. I’m glad DJ and Delaney are gone. Hopefully DJ turns it around in AAA, I don’t see anyone taking a flier on someone like DanJo. This is like a few have said a years move by bringing up Ruggs over Jennings. Jennings will be up soon enough. I tend to see Ruggs as a platoon with Fuld, not Joyce. Overall, its a good move.
Yes
But we will be somewhere between 2-5 games back by then.
by GomesSweetGomes on May 20, 2011 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions
I think either way we will see them
But the fact neither of them are here does make it more likely that we will be sellers at the deadline
by GomesSweetGomes on May 20, 2011 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Nope Fuld should start all year.
Jennings dealt because of Fuld.
I'm not sure if you're serious...If you are, the reasons are simple:
1) Dutton’s xBABIP has to be input by hand, so it takes a long time to calculate.
2) I do this for free.
by BWoodrum
In the spirit of today's inter-league matchup, this:
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Can't wait for that flag to fly
I'm not sure if you're serious...If you are, the reasons are simple:
1) Dutton’s xBABIP has to be input by hand, so it takes a long time to calculate.
2) I do this for free.
by BWoodrum
lineup*
Vroom vroom party starter
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by Imperialism32 on May 20, 2011 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions
yes, I believe he did
sternfan10 -" i am one stupid SOB #Rays #DRB"
by Jason Collette on May 20, 2011 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions
before last season
http://www.draysbay.com/2009/11/16/1160415/justin-ruggiano-takes-a-trip-to
sternfan10 -" i am one stupid SOB #Rays #DRB"
by Jason Collette on May 20, 2011 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Remember the Good Times
Dan Johnson Homers Against Papsmear: http://tampabay.rays.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?content_id=3446121
Dan Johnson walk off over Atchinson : http://www.carbonated.tv/sports/rays-beat-red-sox-32
Dan Johnson two home run game versus the Yankees: http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?content_id=12121391
Nobody can take these great moments away from Danjo or the Rays fans.
I'm certain
the Rays have a plan at first base that involves Kotchman finding more time on the bench then in the lineup.
I strongly believe that the Rays will make a deal to bring in a Russell Branyan or someone like that. Hell, Nick Johnson is about to start playing minor league games for the Indians and he has an out on July 1st.
Kotchman will be replaced sooner rather than later and resume being a defensive replacement. Rays would love to get one more month out of Kotchman, he is on borrowed time.
check out the site header
enjoy it while it lasts
sternfan10 -" i am one stupid SOB #Rays #DRB"
by Jason Collette on May 20, 2011 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Anyone realize that the Rays, Red Sox & Yankees are all starting 1st rd picks @ 1B?
Someone we ended up on the short stick.
PIZZA?!?
CJ Cron is coming to the rescue.
Sad that he has been designated the 1b of the future even though we have not drafted him yet.
Our starting 1B has less XBH than:
Tony Gwynn Jr
John McDonald
Nick Punto
Willie Harris
Jason Bartlett
Derek Jeter
Denard Span
Humberto Quintero
Emilio Bonifacio
just to name a few
sternfan10 -" i am one stupid SOB #Rays #DRB"
by Jason Collette on May 20, 2011 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Our starting 1B has 1HR
Sam Fuld & EJ have 2. EACH!
PIZZA?!?
by Transplanted on May 20, 2011 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions
the full list
http://bbref.com/pi/shareit/OU2dy
sternfan10 -" i am one stupid SOB #Rays #DRB"
by Jason Collette on May 20, 2011 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions
That's a really depressing thing to read
Cron/Yonder is needed asap.
Cron could probably be drafted in June, start the next day & hit more HRs than Kotchman
PIZZA?!?
by Transplanted on May 20, 2011 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions
more depressing
Rays have 6 of the top 50 spots on that list. It’s amazing they’ve produced the runs that they have to this point.
sternfan10 -" i am one stupid SOB #Rays #DRB"
by Jason Collette on May 20, 2011 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions
They have like a top 5 ISO in baseball
PIZZA?!?
by Transplanted on May 20, 2011 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions
tied for 3rd best at .159
Yanks .192
D-Backs .160
Rangers and Rays .159
sternfan10 -" i am one stupid SOB #Rays #DRB"
by Jason Collette on May 20, 2011 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Or with talent
Rays lineup is really pretty bad.
PIZZA?!?
by Transplanted on May 20, 2011 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions
1B & LF are the only spots that need help
We can live with SS/C
PIZZA?!?
by Transplanted on May 20, 2011 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Not with Jaso being garbage at catching the ball
I'm not sure if you're serious...If you are, the reasons are simple:
1) Dutton’s xBABIP has to be input by hand, so it takes a long time to calculate.
2) I do this for free.
by BWoodrum
It's liveable until maybe June
PIZZA?!?
by Transplanted on May 20, 2011 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions
I get that Kotchman is going to come back down to earth
but can people please reserve the bitching and pitchforks for when he does? Is that really too much to ask? I know his BA is inflated due to BABIP, but as of now, he has been producing. A line of .341/.396/.455 for April and .321/.390/.358 isn’t great for a 1B but it’s the best we got right now. And it isn’t worth bitching about. Yet.
He’s not hitting for power. Johnson hasn’t been hitting at all. It is what it is. But the guy is still getting on base and providing decent D at 1B. Just be thankful for anything we do get, ala Sam Fuld.
by raysfaninminnesota on May 20, 2011 3:46 PM EDT reply actions
And Dan Johnson isn't?
8th in AL in Fielding among 1B (according to Fangraphs), 16th in MLB in UZR, 10th in AL in WAR, 2nd in OBP.
His BABIP inflated stats have made him good enough to be average. Which means when his BABIP comes back down, he will be below average. The question will be how much. But don’t forgot how God-awful Johnson is, and the options the Rays have to work with. You can’t make chicken salad with chicken shit. And the stench that smells the least is Kotchman. But to bitch about a guy who was a desperation signing and roster filler is kind of crazy. At least Kotchman has been giving the Rays something positive now. Anything else is a bonus.
by raysfaninminnesota on May 20, 2011 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions
you don't listen well, do you?
Don’t bitch about when he plummets back to earth until when he actually does. The fact that he’s given any positive production is a plus. That should be the focus.
by raysfaninminnesota on May 20, 2011 6:44 PM EDT up reply actions
It's already begun is the thing
@SandyKazmir
Yes I've only been a fan since 2009. You got me.
by blackraven on May 5, 2011 3:46 PM EDT
by Sandy Kazmir on May 20, 2011 8:03 PM EDT up reply actions
with what?
10 AB coming into tonight’s game? Dude got two hits tonight, including a game-tying RBI despite an 0-2 count. Johnson hasn’t done anything. Bitch about Johnson not performing up to expectations, not the eventual fall of Kotchman. Complain when it actually happens.
by raysfaninminnesota on May 20, 2011 9:58 PM EDT up reply actions
but DanJo is the great pumpkin???
fuck Johnson. He’s had plenty of chances and has sucked. time to cut bait on him.
Kotchman is not a good solution, but he at least saves some runs in the field.
so sick of the love for DanJo. Call Ruggiano AAAA and ignore that Ginger is just the same? WTF?
by tampa_edski on May 20, 2011 10:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Here you go, this includes tonight
Still looks a lot like the old Puss-eyed Caseman of old.
@SandyKazmir
Yes I've only been a fan since 2009. You got me.
by blackraven on May 5, 2011 3:46 PM EDT
by Sandy Kazmir on May 20, 2011 11:49 PM EDT up reply actions
OBP of .400
He’s been getting on base and playing decent defense. If Dan Johnson would be doing this, people would be praising him. Not saying he wont come back to earth, but he has been just fine for April and May.
by raysfaninminnesota on May 21, 2011 12:26 AM EDT up reply actions
wOBA properly weights OBP and SLG. They both matter. We haven't even seen the worst of Caseman yet. It could get pretty ugly here.
@SandyKazmir
Yes I've only been a fan since 2009. You got me.
by blackraven on May 5, 2011 3:46 PM EDT
by Sandy Kazmir on May 21, 2011 7:44 AM EDT up reply actions
I'm not going to focus on what he hasn't given
but what he has given. I don’t get why people just can’t be happy that he’s still contributed positively and stop focusing on what he hasn’t done. A .400 OBP is a good thing. Decent defense is a good thing. Especially when you factor in the Rays have nothing else that is producing at this position. This ride is going to end and he’s not going to keep contributing positively at all. But that’s then. This isn’t about how “ugly” it could get. Anything he does give is a bonus. He was a minor-league insurance policy in case of injury, poor performance, etc. Anything he does give was not expected. This is like finding $10 on the side of the road and complaining that it wasn’t a $20. Enjoy what you got and if you still need more money, look for ways to get it. But don’t complain that the $10 wasn’t a $20.
by raysfaninminnesota on May 21, 2011 10:50 AM EDT up reply actions
That's the issue...we done got it already
sub .700 OPSs from 1B are killers – all we are asking for is the continual pursuit of improvement and finding another solution. His descent back to career norms will be exacerbated by him being exposed to LHP. He’s already beating balls into the ground at a 66% clip this month as he’s been pressed into fulltime duty.
There are open-market solutions out there if not some creative in-market solutions. I’m all for keeping Kotchman on the team for experience/pinch-hitting/depth and what not but if he’s the starting 1B on this team by the all-star break, the team has fallen out of contention or he’s made a serious deal with the devil to find more in his bat.
sternfan10 -" i am one stupid SOB #Rays #DRB"
by Jason Collette on May 20, 2011 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions
you damn right
sternfan10 -" i am one stupid SOB #Rays #DRB"
by Jason Collette on May 20, 2011 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Bloomquist = Kotch
sternfan10 -" i am one stupid SOB #Rays #DRB"
by Jason Collette on May 20, 2011 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions
I think we just need to accept that the Rays aren't trying to make a run this year.
If it happens, great. But they’re not exactly being aggressive in optimizing their team for this season.
I love Casey Fossum. Now try and take me seriously. -- @steveslow
by Steve Slowinski on May 20, 2011 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Welcome to a while ago
I'm not sure if you're serious...If you are, the reasons are simple:
1) Dutton’s xBABIP has to be input by hand, so it takes a long time to calculate.
2) I do this for free.
by BWoodrum
Yeah, but I keep fooling myself.
Hence the frustration over Sonny being up, the demotion of Guyer, etc. But it all makes so much sense when you think of it through that lens.
I love Casey Fossum. Now try and take me seriously. -- @steveslow
by Steve Slowinski on May 20, 2011 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Herp Derp
I'm not sure if you're serious...If you are, the reasons are simple:
1) Dutton’s xBABIP has to be input by hand, so it takes a long time to calculate.
2) I do this for free.
by BWoodrum
The only one I really hate is Sonny being up and starting
With the arms in the system we could get someone better.
I'm not sure if you're serious...If you are, the reasons are simple:
1) Dutton’s xBABIP has to be input by hand, so it takes a long time to calculate.
2) I do this for free.
by BWoodrum
If this wasn't a NL start
I think Cobb/Torres would start.
PIZZA?!?
by Transplanted on May 20, 2011 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Or for the tinfoil hat folk
Stu is trying to sabotage the team to leave.
PIZZA?!?
by Transplanted on May 20, 2011 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions
and that's the frustrating part
Pineda
Hosmer
Belt
Teheran
Brown
All of these guys are up in the bigs, and yet we’re rostering less-talented players to save money down the line when a nice opportunity has presented itself. I get it from a long-term business model, but it is still a frustrating short-term decision.
sternfan10 -" i am one stupid SOB #Rays #DRB"
by Jason Collette on May 20, 2011 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Flags fly forever homie
I'm not sure if you're serious...If you are, the reasons are simple:
1) Dutton’s xBABIP has to be input by hand, so it takes a long time to calculate.
2) I do this for free.
by BWoodrum
Makes me want to try & force BJ into an extension more
I ran some numbers, we could keep this team(the talent) together until 2015
PIZZA?!?
by Transplanted on May 20, 2011 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Sign Kotchman long term please
I'm not sure if you're serious...If you are, the reasons are simple:
1) Dutton’s xBABIP has to be input by hand, so it takes a long time to calculate.
2) I do this for free.
by BWoodrum
Trade Jennings
We have Fuld.
I'm not sure if you're serious...If you are, the reasons are simple:
1) Dutton’s xBABIP has to be input by hand, so it takes a long time to calculate.
2) I do this for free.
by BWoodrum
Only flaw being we can't push payroll above 50M
I think it’d take about 100M to retain the talent.
PIZZA?!?
by Transplanted on May 20, 2011 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions
It does seem like teams are being more loose with their top prospects this season.
Rays seem to be one of the only teams with top prospects close to the majors that aren’t taking the gamble on Super Two.
I love Casey Fossum. Now try and take me seriously. -- @steveslow
by Steve Slowinski on May 20, 2011 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Okay, I didn't do any research there at all, so it's likely hyperbole.
I love Casey Fossum. Now try and take me seriously. -- @steveslow
by Steve Slowinski on May 20, 2011 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Meh
I’m not ready to accept that. I don’t think the FO is either. There will be better chances down the road, but crikes, we are right near the top right now.
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Then how do you explain all the recent roster moves?
If they were shooting for a ‘Win Now’ approach, I can’t imagine they’d be doing the same moves they’ve done over the past few weeks.
I love Casey Fossum. Now try and take me seriously. -- @steveslow
by Steve Slowinski on May 20, 2011 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions
I really doubt Jennings will be the difference between the playoffs & the golf course
This team is too heavily flawed to maintain its pace.
PIZZA?!?
by Transplanted on May 20, 2011 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions
No, but if you want to make the playoffs with this team, it helps to maximize every possible advantage.
The extra 2%, right? And between Sonny starting multiple games and now this, I just don’t know.
I love Casey Fossum. Now try and take me seriously. -- @steveslow
by Steve Slowinski on May 20, 2011 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions
They've never taken that approach even when they were in better contention
Zaun, Bradford Qualls, and Baldelli x 2 have been our big news signings/promotions
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I blame the other teams for the lack of splashy moves
They don’t wanna play ball.
PIZZA?!?
by Transplanted on May 20, 2011 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions
They've never tried to maximize every advantage?
Hrm?
I love Casey Fossum. Now try and take me seriously. -- @steveslow
by Steve Slowinski on May 20, 2011 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions
They called Hellickson up to start instead of Sonny last season.
Although tough to say if later on he’d have gotten the call over Sonny again if only one of Davis or Niemann had been injured.
Maybe it’s just me, but it felt like last season the Rays were more willing to call up young prospects and use our minor league talent than they are this season. But that could mostly be a product of how far along players are….there were more probably more major-league ready players on last year’s squad too.
I love Casey Fossum. Now try and take me seriously. -- @steveslow
by Steve Slowinski on May 20, 2011 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions
And more importantly, they were ready to commit to him.
They’re probably waiting to see how Niemann rebounds from his DL stint before they bring Cobb up for keeps.
@ptSuttery
Yeah, the more I think on it, a lot of it does come down to players simply being ready for the majors.
We don’t have as many that are at that point quite yet and the Rays aren’t going to rush it.
I love Casey Fossum. Now try and take me seriously. -- @steveslow
by Steve Slowinski on May 20, 2011 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Right, Helly had 30 AAA starts under his belt
Davis had a kajillion
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Yeah, but with more of an emphasis on the long-term.
Or at least, moreso than they’ve had the last couple years. I’m sure they’re working the phones and trying to make some deals, and they’ll make a deal if there’s something good there. But I just don’t think they feel they’re close enough to really go gung-ho…to say screw it, let’s call up Cobb instead of Sonny, and use Guyer instead of Fuld. It’s a more conservative approach toward this season.
I love Casey Fossum. Now try and take me seriously. -- @steveslow
by Steve Slowinski on May 20, 2011 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions
If Casey Kotchman is your non-injury starting 1B
You don’t have pennant aspirations.
PIZZA?!?
by Transplanted on May 20, 2011 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, I think the "season's over" storyline is a bit too much.
Pitching and defense, pitching and defense.
@ptSuttery
Yeah, I might be coming off a bit too strong there.
My main point is simply that I think this move tells us something about the Rays’ view of their season. That’s all.
I love Casey Fossum. Now try and take me seriously. -- @steveslow
by Steve Slowinski on May 20, 2011 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Didn't say the season was over
Just being realistic about the talent being sent out there day after day.
PIZZA?!?
by Transplanted on May 20, 2011 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Playing over their heads a bit
Bullpen is very meh & we don’t have a strong position player crop that can help like in the past.
PIZZA?!?
by Transplanted on May 20, 2011 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Bullpen is playing over their heads, but we'll see.
The gloves are real. They’re going to be there everyday. Shields, Price, and Hellickson will continue to be the best 1-2-3 in the division. Longoria and Damon have underperformed to this point, so hopefully they’ll pick up the slack from Kotchman, Fuld and likely Joyce declining a bit. There’s still enough punch in this lineup to win games.
Also, no position player crop that can help? Desmond Jennings. Brandon Guyer. Potentially Russ Canzler.
@ptSuttery
Don't doubt the gloves
But gotta be able to score a little bit better. Really lacking in OBP.
PIZZA?!?
by Transplanted on May 20, 2011 5:00 PM EDT up reply actions
It's so bizarre to see Damon's BB% to just completely go away
It was 10% basically every year. Now it’s like 4%
PIZZA?!?
by Transplanted on May 20, 2011 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, which is ridiculous.
Most of his other periphs are the same, so I’m assuming that’s a fluke.
@ptSuttery
I think it's getting to a 3-2 count
But making an out rather than a BB. That’s what killed us vs Nova. Ton of 3-2 counts, but almost no BBs-big change vs last year.
PIZZA?!?
by Transplanted on May 20, 2011 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Amazing that that's with Crawford hitting
He’s had an okay May, but is still under-performing.
PIZZA?!?
by Transplanted on May 20, 2011 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't think many people here were actually bitching about Kotchman.
A couple at the end here, but for the most part the criticisms of this have fallen on Ruggs.
I love Casey Fossum. Now try and take me seriously. -- @steveslow
by Steve Slowinski on May 20, 2011 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions
I think I would have rather seen Canzler get a call-up than Ruggiano
at least he could play some 1B.
I'm assuming there's two reasons for bringing up Ruggiano over Canzler.
1) Allow Canzler more ABs in AAA to see if he’s legit.
2) Get Fuld back onto the bench, even if it’s in a strict platoon. He’s not as good as hot streak, but not as bad as he’s been over the last month. Kid needs some time off and less LHP.
@ptSuttery
Kotchman against LHP worries me.
He’s probably a 1.0 win player on his current course, which is fine. We were prepared to deal with 1.5-2.0 wins at first base going into the season, so that situation hasn’t changed.
@ptSuttery
Then punched that dude in a BoSox hat
I'm not sure if you're serious...If you are, the reasons are simple:
1) Dutton’s xBABIP has to be input by hand, so it takes a long time to calculate.
2) I do this for free.
by BWoodrum
The most disappointing thing to me today
Are all of the “see ya, DanJo”, or “Finally!” comments coming from the numbnuts in the fanbase. The guy provided arguably the greatest HR in franchise history and single-handedly won 2 crucial games down the stretch last season with his bat. The least they can do is say thanks for the memories as they kick his ass down the stairs.
sternfan10 -" i am one stupid SOB #Rays #DRB"
by Jason Collette on May 20, 2011 4:04 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
No IT'S ONLY TAMPA YOU IDIOT!
I'm not sure if you're serious...If you are, the reasons are simple:
1) Dutton’s xBABIP has to be input by hand, so it takes a long time to calculate.
2) I do this for free.
by BWoodrum
Yeah, but on a per capita basis
Seems worse.
PIZZA?!?
by Transplanted on May 20, 2011 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Smartest place in the fucking world
I'm not sure if you're serious...If you are, the reasons are simple:
1) Dutton’s xBABIP has to be input by hand, so it takes a long time to calculate.
2) I do this for free.
by BWoodrum
You have to have a PHD to be a Packer fan
I'm not sure if you're serious...If you are, the reasons are simple:
1) Dutton’s xBABIP has to be input by hand, so it takes a long time to calculate.
2) I do this for free.
by BWoodrum
GB isn't a sports market though
PIZZA?!?
by Transplanted on May 20, 2011 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, but only 1
On a special case.
PIZZA?!?
by Transplanted on May 20, 2011 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Once again I think you care too much about what they think
I'm not sure if you're serious...If you are, the reasons are simple:
1) Dutton’s xBABIP has to be input by hand, so it takes a long time to calculate.
2) I do this for free.
by BWoodrum
It's the bleeding heart liberal in me
Outside of Burrell and Navi, I’ve never been happy to see someone leave during these past few seasons. Navi was an asshole for his stuff last year and Burrell acted like he could care less most of the time. Outside of that, I tend to focus on the good things the guys did while they were here. Same with Sonny – he was a factor in 08 even if he hasn’t done much of anything since.
sternfan10 -" i am one stupid SOB #Rays #DRB"
by Jason Collette on May 20, 2011 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions
.
sternfan10 -" i am one stupid SOB #Rays #DRB"
by Jason Collette on May 20, 2011 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions
meeeeeeh, substitute bartlett in that and you're criticizing most of DRB, so.
I have the same reaction as I did to when they traded Bartlett. H/t for your services, but I’m glad to see you go.
Though, I’m glad to see Bartlett go because he was a declining player where as I’m glad Johnson is going to get to play somewhere.
@ptSuttery
I have to respectfully disagree.
I may be in the minority here, but I’ve seen very good discussion about who got called up, the why he got called up, and where is he going to play, etc. then I have seen of “Finally” or “see ya, DanJo” talk.
Maybe I am sheltered sticking to my Twitter feed and DRB, but I don’t get the same feeling as you and don’t feel that the fanbase are a bunch of numbnuts. Those that are disparaging Johnson may not really be Rays fans at all, just irritants. I agree 100% with the DFA but am very thankful for the memories he gave us.
By and large, the comments in this post have been very good, covering all sorts of Rays related issues. If you are getting deluged by negative Danjo comments on your twitter feed then I of course understand where you’re coming from.
just a small sample
He’ll be back in Sept. No one is going to claim him and he’ll report to Durham. The shame of it is Maddon sent Kotchman down to start the season when it was obvious who had the better glove. Even if / when Kotchman reverts to his .260 career average he’s a big upgrade over a guy who is a 4A player.
It’s about dang time.
Welcome back JP! See yaaa Dan. Go Rays, beat the marlins!
It’s about time…Ruggiano needs the shot and Johnson needs to find another vocation. Also, there’s a spot on my Clearwater Men’s league team but he will need to tryout before he gets a jersey
Finally Dan Johson is back where he belongs.
It’s about time. He wasn’t doing anything worth writing home about. He was a bad choice from the get-go. He can kill a fastball and that is about it. He has a long swing that is subject to looking stupid
Thank you……about time.
sternfan10 -" i am one stupid SOB #Rays #DRB"
by Jason Collette on May 20, 2011 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions
like I said
if I’m sheltered on my Twitter and DRB feed. Interesting to read those comments. Thanks for posting them to shed light on the negativity.
Lots of responses to the DRB twitter account and Facebook page today along the lines Jason was talking about.
You don’t see a lot of that sort of stuff get into the threads here, but it appears in those places mostly.
I love Casey Fossum. Now try and take me seriously. -- @steveslow
by Steve Slowinski on May 20, 2011 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions
I'll check the Facebook page later:
Some of the stuff Jason posted makes my stomach churn (honest emotion there). I don’t get it at all.
I pulled those from the DRB facebook page, the DRB twitter replies, and the SP Times comments on the story
in a 3 minute search
sternfan10 -" i am one stupid SOB #Rays #DRB"
by Jason Collette on May 20, 2011 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't doubt you
It’s a reason that I put that I’ve sheltered myself in my Twitter feed and DRB in my original comment.
I will defend the Tampa Bay fans pretty quickly, but do understand where you are coming from. You’ll just never hear me call them a bunch of numbnuts and you will hear me defend the fanbase more than most.
Oh, I know
When I’m talking about numbnuts, I’m focusing on a certain sect of the "fan"base that comes and goes as the teams’ success waxes and wanes.
sternfan10 -" i am one stupid SOB #Rays #DRB"
by Jason Collette on May 20, 2011 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Gotcha
Every Ray should be thanked for their contribution, cheered for when they are on the field, and when their time comes to an end it shouldn’t be a cause for celebration. As you said, cheer for the name on the front of the uniform, not the back.
You have too much faith in humanity
As I have almost none.
PIZZA?!?
by Transplanted on May 20, 2011 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions
...
thanks for the memories DanJo, but enough is enough
by Jason Collette on May 19, 2011 5:06 PM PDT on Game Day Thread for 5/19/11: Live from Rogers Center. THAT’S RIGHT CENTER. ‘ER’ YOU WRONG SPELLING JERKS on DRaysBay
Your at bats are painful to watch
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and?
The least they can do is say thanks for the memories…..
Which is what I did while coming to grips with the fact that he was not helping the club and needed to be off the roster. I don’t let emotions drive my decisions for who is on the team; I care more about the name on the front than the one on the back.
sternfan10 -" i am one stupid SOB #Rays #DRB"
by Jason Collette on May 20, 2011 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions
It's unfair to DanJo to not have a chance to play.
PIZZA?!?
by Transplanted on May 20, 2011 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions
If he gets thru waivers and goes to Durham to rediscover his swing
and is a factor later this season here, awesome for us.
If someone claims him and he goes on to help some other team find success this season, awesome for him.
Either way, 4 of his HRs are going to remain on my top ten list of bombs for this club until someone replaces them.
sternfan10 -" i am one stupid SOB #Rays #DRB"
by Jason Collette on May 20, 2011 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions
as soon as Kareem gets his in LA
They’re both equally important to their respective franchises
sternfan10 -" i am one stupid SOB #Rays #DRB"
by Jason Collette on May 20, 2011 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions
With the departure of DanJo I need a new avatar
SUGGESTIONS? At least about which player it should reflect?
PIZZA?!?
ask sternfan
he knows everything lately
sternfan10 -" i am one stupid SOB #Rays #DRB"
by Jason Collette on May 20, 2011 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Jaso hitting leadoff tonight
Jaso c, Zobrist 2b, Damon lf, Longoria 3b, Joyce rf, Upton cf, Kotchman 1b, E. Johnson ss, Sonnanstine p
sternfan10 -" i am one stupid SOB #Rays #DRB"
At least 8th
btw, this is the 37th different lineup through 44 games
http://www.baseball-reference.com/teams/TBR/2011-batting-orders.shtml
sternfan10 -" i am one stupid SOB #Rays #DRB"
by Jason Collette on May 20, 2011 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Cmon Ruggs, parlay this final chance into a couple weeks of mojo and I'm psyched to have J.P. back it will be interesting to see if they ease him in with low-leverage at first
Sad to see Dan go, but I hope he can build some confidence and get back to doing what he does well. I don’t think we’ve seen the last of him with the dearth of credible candidates around the first sack laying around.
@SandyKazmir
Yes I've only been a fan since 2009. You got me.
by blackraven on May 5, 2011 3:46 PM EDT
I don't think this year is any different in terms of present vs future priority
The FO has always viewed the future first and foremost. Even in our AL East championship years nearly every single move was made with the future in mind. I do give the front office credit with picking up cheap vets to suppliment the now, but in terms of trades and call ups this is no different than years past. How can we forget the Bay and Vmart flirtations? They could have always made moves, but the plan is to hoard assets, get picks on the cheap, and defer service time. And I also don’t get the sentiment that we cannot win it all this year, we certainly can. This may not be our ‘best’ team on paper (or a spreadsheet), but paper champions aren’t always champions. The Yanks have serious problems, and our pitching can keep us in any series come playoff time.
I thank Draysbay for proving that Loose Change fanatics exist in mainstream America, and more importantly for Chik-fil-A spicy chicken recommendations. My life is forever changed
I don't think this is the best team on paper...
but I do think an opportunity is there for the taking and it would be nice to see the team make a pre-deadline acquisition for the first time in the team’s competitive history
sternfan10 -" i am one stupid SOB #Rays #DRB"
by Jason Collette on May 20, 2011 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions
It isn't the best team on paper, but we are on par if not better than the Yankees and our top 3 pitchers can keep us in any playoff series
I thank Draysbay for proving that Loose Change fanatics exist in mainstream America, and more importantly for Chik-fil-A spicy chicken recommendations. My life is forever changed
I was about to argue with you, but I do agree that our Top 3 pitchers and defense are superior to the Yankees.
Their lineup is clearly stronger.
@ptSuttery
I'd hope their lineup was stronger
Considering A-Rod out-earns almost our whole team.
PIZZA?!?
by Transplanted on May 20, 2011 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Our D is stronger
I thank Draysbay for proving that Loose Change fanatics exist in mainstream America, and more importantly for Chik-fil-A spicy chicken recommendations. My life is forever changed
But then again it is too early to tell the season long impact of the Yankees stem cell implants
I thank Draysbay for proving that Loose Change fanatics exist in mainstream America, and more importantly for Chik-fil-A spicy chicken recommendations. My life is forever changed
Jason Bay was more on the Pirates than Friedman
It’s not his fault they decided to accept nothing for him.
PIZZA?!?
by Transplanted on May 20, 2011 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Flags fly forever
I'm not sure if you're serious...If you are, the reasons are simple:
1) Dutton’s xBABIP has to be input by hand, so it takes a long time to calculate.
2) I do this for free.
by BWoodrum
Come mid July, no need to panic
“Everyday” lineups, obviously tinker to get playing time for Guyer in the outfield
Vs RHP
Jennings LF
Zobrist 2B
Damon DH
Longoria 3B
Joyce RF
BJ CF
Kotchman 1B
Elliot/Brignac SS
Jaso C
vs LHP
Jennings LF
Zobrist 2B
Damon 1B
Longoria 3B
Joyce RF
BJ CF
Guyer DH
Shoppach C
Elliot/Brignac SS
I thank Draysbay for proving that Loose Change fanatics exist in mainstream America, and more importantly for Chik-fil-A spicy chicken recommendations. My life is forever changed
Sorry, this isn't what I think it should be but rather what it will be IMO
I thank Draysbay for proving that Loose Change fanatics exist in mainstream America, and more importantly for Chik-fil-A spicy chicken recommendations. My life is forever changed
We are doing it now
I thank Draysbay for proving that Loose Change fanatics exist in mainstream America, and more importantly for Chik-fil-A spicy chicken recommendations. My life is forever changed
We've been doing it all season. I don't see Maddon changing it unless Damon totally crashes
I thank Draysbay for proving that Loose Change fanatics exist in mainstream America, and more importantly for Chik-fil-A spicy chicken recommendations. My life is forever changed
mmm. this is true.
for some reason I had it in my head he had been batting 2nd most of the time, but Zobrist has recently taken that spot over.
@ptSuttery
To make a comment on the Delaney move
Not that he pitched awful or anything, but a good friend of mine went to the same high school as him, and had him as a sub teacher. Apparently he’s a total douche, so good riddance, and hip hip hooray for J.P. returning!
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