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The Rays and Situational Hitting

MIAMI GARDENS, FL - MAY 20: Johnny Damon #22 of the Tampa Bay Rays is congratulated by John Jaso #28 after scoring during a game against the Florida Marlins at Sun Life Stadium on May 20, 2011 in Miami Gardens, Florida. (Photo by Mike Ehrmann/Getty Images)

One of the great things about social media in games is that you get to see instant commentary from the fan base throughout the different situations in games. The downside to those instant reactions is that they are not always accurate. We learned last night that Casey Kotchman is the best two-strike hitter in baseball right now because Staats and Anderson told us so. We can also look that up to see just how well he has done this season compared to seasons past. 

The downside about social media is the immediateness of it and how it often does not allow people to quantify their own tweets, thread posts, or Facebook status updates before they post them. After all, Dewayne and Brian have members in the team communications department that supply all of that information and they as well as the rest of the media members in the press box are supplied with ample amounts of data notes such as that before each game.

To even that playing field, at a team level, I figured it would be handy if you knew just how well or poorly the team did in regards to situational hitting so you can be better informed in your social media interactions in the future as well as set your expectations for different situations in the game accordingly. sOPS+ represents performance in that split relative to league average; a score of 100 is league average while better scores are higher than 100.

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Some observations:

  • The new aggressive approach by the hitters has been discussed rather frequently both in the traditional and non-traditional media formats and this shows just how well the Rays have been at first pitch swinging thus far. However, the team has been below league average when either ahead or behind in the count while doing very well when even in the count. When the club has worked deep into counts, the outcome has often been less than successful.
  • The team has struggled to score runs consistently thanks to its below league-average performance with runners in scoring position. Matt Joyce, B.J. Upton, and Ben Zobrist have driven in 50 of the team's 123 RBI in this split. Evan Longoria has only had 18 plate appearances with runners in scoring position this season and has but one single, double, and home run with six runs driven in. Kotchman has 33 plate appearances in that time and has seven hits, all singles, and has driven in four runs while hitting .241. Ironically, Sam Fuld is fourth on the club with 14 RBI with runners in scoring position despite hitting lead-off most of the season.
  • The team has done very well hitting with runners on second and third this season, but that situation has only come up in 33 plate appearances. The team is also hitting very well with a man on third and less than two outs, but that has only happened in 92 plate appearances. If you double that last figure, you get the amount of time the Rays have come up to hit with runners in scoring position and two out where they are next to last in baseball. Upton and Joyce are a combined 11 for 31 in those situations and have three of the four home runs and 16 of the team's 35 runs batted in for those situations.
The team's inconsistent offense not only comes from production issues from certain spots in the lineup, it also comes from a failure to maximize production in situational hitting. The team ranks in the bottom 50% of half of the 20 splits that are called out in the table above, which puts an extra strain on the pitching and defense to carry the load toward success in the standings. Moving forward, the Rays need to produce better results in their situational hitting and a good place to start would be hitting for higher averages.

The team is in the top five in doubles, triples, and home runs but is below league average in overall hits. The team is not pacing the league in steals as it did for most of the season last year which puts the responsibility on the hitters to get runners on first over into scoring position and the new aggressive approach at the plate has seen the Rays go from the highest walk total in 2010 to leading only Chicago and Minnesota this season. Evan Longoria is just getting back into the offense and has yet to find his regular stride and more help will be on the way internally as Desmond Jennings and Brandon Guyer join the club, but other bats will need to step up and help out. Elliot Johnson is doing some of that in recent days in place of the struggling Reid Brignac, but more run production will need to come from the first base situation and the catching duo needs to chip in as well. Acquiring the recently-released Russell Branyan would be a shrewd first move, if The Muscle would be willing to return to the Tampa Bay area.

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The problem isn't how we're doing with RISP, it's the fact we have so few of them

or any runners at all. As MrNegative showed yesterday, we rank 12th in the AL and only the injury plagued Twins and the 4A Mariners are below us

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by sternfan1 on May 21, 2011 8:10 AM EDT reply actions  

Counterpoint

If the team is doing so poorly getting on base, does it not behoove them to do a better job hitting with men on to marginalized that team inefficiency?

They are currently compounding their problem and relying on 2 guys to do the work, one of which is performing at an unsustainable level (Joyce).

Kotchman also has to be more of a run producer as an everyday player. Last night was just his fifth RBI with RISP and that trails Brignac by one who has done that in half of the situational plate appearances.

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by Jason Collette on May 21, 2011 10:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

So now we're blaming Kotchman for not knocking in runs....

Geesh… the guy is the anti-Christ around here.

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by Rays_Rev on May 21, 2011 10:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

If he's knocking in less runs than REID FREAKING BRIGNAC there is a problem

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by Top Gun Numba 1 on May 21, 2011 10:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

Especially for a First baseman

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by Jonah Keri on Jun 19, 2010 10:31 PM EDT

by Doug09 on May 21, 2011 10:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

For anyone. Need I remind you we're talking about Reid Brignac

The caller said the boy, after removing the bulb from its socket, left the building and threw the bulb on the ground. When the bulb broke, the caller said the boy screamed "My electrolytes are down after the workout today…I fail"

by Top Gun Numba 1 on May 21, 2011 10:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

Oh, so now we're not allowed to point out faults in players?

He’s hitting in the 6th spot of the lineup….and the 9th place hitter is driving in more runs than he is. That is a problem, I don’t care who it is.

For the 1,234th time – this is NOT anything personal. I’m not a fanboy, I’m an analyst.

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by Jason Collette on May 21, 2011 10:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

Cherrypicking

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by Rays_Rev on May 21, 2011 10:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

RBI is cherry picking?

The caller said the boy, after removing the bulb from its socket, left the building and threw the bulb on the ground. When the bulb broke, the caller said the boy screamed "My electrolytes are down after the workout today…I fail"

by Top Gun Numba 1 on May 21, 2011 10:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

There are other RBI challenged batters w/ similar plate appearances

who weren’t mentioned by name. I call that Cherry Picking.

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by Rays_Rev on May 21, 2011 10:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

Like who? I don't know who wouldn't call Brignac our worst offensive player, and Kotch has less RBI than him

The caller said the boy, after removing the bulb from its socket, left the building and threw the bulb on the ground. When the bulb broke, the caller said the boy screamed "My electrolytes are down after the workout today…I fail"

by Top Gun Numba 1 on May 21, 2011 10:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

Apparently he doesn't have less RBI than him. Brignac has 6, Kotch 8, but having 2 more RBI than by far our worst offensive player in 8 more PAs isn't exactly a ringing endorsement

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by Top Gun Numba 1 on May 21, 2011 10:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

I don't think anyone would call Jaso "good" by any stretch, and he's got 10 RBI in 16 LESS PA.

The caller said the boy, after removing the bulb from its socket, left the building and threw the bulb on the ground. When the bulb broke, the caller said the boy screamed "My electrolytes are down after the workout today…I fail"

by Top Gun Numba 1 on May 21, 2011 10:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

Luck

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by Rays_Rev on May 21, 2011 10:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

This is a post about situational hitting. Kotchman is awful at it. I don't see how you can call that luck but ignore Kotch's .371 BABIP

The caller said the boy, after removing the bulb from its socket, left the building and threw the bulb on the ground. When the bulb broke, the caller said the boy screamed "My electrolytes are down after the workout today…I fail"

by Top Gun Numba 1 on May 21, 2011 10:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

I was being sarcastic..

but seriously.. why a post about situational hitting… calling out Kotchman by name.. the day after he actually got a situational hit.

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by Rays_Rev on May 21, 2011 10:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

Because Collette takes all his cues from SF1, and SF1 has been banging the drum about how terrible this offense is.

Collette just felt the need to explore that point. Turns out that Kotchman is a major reason why we aren’t driving in runs. Should he have not pointed that out?

The caller said the boy, after removing the bulb from its socket, left the building and threw the bulb on the ground. When the bulb broke, the caller said the boy screamed "My electrolytes are down after the workout today…I fail"

by Top Gun Numba 1 on May 21, 2011 10:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

I called out Longoria by name as well

That’s what ANALYSTS do. If I called him CaseyJack KotchmanHaley in honor of the the biggest white stiff in the NBA, Jack Haley, would that make it more palatable?

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by Jason Collette on May 21, 2011 10:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

Kotch has had a few key non-hits in clutch situations recently.

That’s not to say others haven’t flopped too (BJ’s had some bad ones this past week too), just that it is what it is. It hasn’t been one of his strengths yet this year.

I love Casey Fossum. Now try and take me seriously. -- @steveslow

by Steve Slowinski on May 21, 2011 10:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

I guess you didn't read above

The team has struggled to score runs consistently thanks to its below league-average performance with runners in scoring position. Matt Joyce, B.J. Upton, and Ben Zobrist have driven in 50 of the team’s 123 RBI in this split. Evan Longoria has only had 18 plate appearances with runners in scoring position this season and has but one single, double, and home run with six runs driven in. Kotchman has 33 plate appearances in that time and has seven hits, all singles, and has driven in four runs while hitting .241. Ironically, Sam Fuld is fourth on the club with 14 RBI with runners in scoring position despite hitting lead-off most of the season.

That’s 6 of the 9 batters that have been the everyday lineup over the past 2 weeks

By Plate Appearances w/RISP

Rk G GS PA AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI
1 Johnny Damon 31 48 45 11 1 0 1 16
2 B.J. Upton 32 47 43 12 3 0 2 20
3 Ben Zobrist 29 42 34 8 4 1 2 18
4 Sam Fuld 27 39 34 9 2 1 1 14
5 Matthew Joyce 27 37 26 10 2 1 1 14
6 Casey Kotchman 23 34 30 8 0 0 0 5
7 Felipe Lopez 17 29 28 7 1 0 0 4
8 Reid Brignac 18 27 24 4 1 0 0 6
9 John Jaso 18 23 22 3 2 0 0 5
10 Kelly Shoppach 14 23 20 3 0 0 0 3
11 Evan Longoria 11 19 16 3 1 0 1 6
12 Elliot Johnson 14 19 16 4 0 0 0 5
13 Sean Rodriguez 11 19 17 3 0 0 0 4
14 Dan Johnson 13 18 17 1 0 0 1 3
15 Manny Ramirez 3 4 4 1 0 0 0 1
16 Brandon Guyer 1 2 2 1 0 0 1 2
17 Justin Ruggiano 1 1 0 0 0 0 0 0
Team Total 45 431 378 131 88 17 3 10 126

I called out Longoria but I guess I should call out Lopez, even though he’s not already here, or Jaso becasue he has the same amount or RBI in 11 less plate appearances, or Sean Rodriguez who is one off the pace with 15 less plate appearances.

get real

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by Jason Collette on May 21, 2011 10:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

Facts are facts

The guy has an empty batting average and is not producing runs for the team due to a combination of his lack of power and his plodding on the basepaths. It’s just reality, nothing personal.

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by Jason Collette on May 21, 2011 11:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

Also, #kotchdoggroup

The caller said the boy, after removing the bulb from its socket, left the building and threw the bulb on the ground. When the bulb broke, the caller said the boy screamed "My electrolytes are down after the workout today…I fail"

by Top Gun Numba 1 on May 21, 2011 10:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

#rootagainstKotchclub

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by Rays_Rev on May 21, 2011 10:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

I don't know why you think it's rooting against him. He needs to do better is the point. He's not driving in runs

The caller said the boy, after removing the bulb from its socket, left the building and threw the bulb on the ground. When the bulb broke, the caller said the boy screamed "My electrolytes are down after the workout today…I fail"

by Top Gun Numba 1 on May 21, 2011 10:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

RBI BLOOP

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by Jonah Keri on Jun 19, 2010 10:31 PM EDT

by Doug09 on May 21, 2011 10:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

I don't care how he gets it, he just needs to get it

The caller said the boy, after removing the bulb from its socket, left the building and threw the bulb on the ground. When the bulb broke, the caller said the boy screamed "My electrolytes are down after the workout today…I fail"

by Top Gun Numba 1 on May 21, 2011 10:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

And he got it last night...

yet here’s an article about how he has to do…EVEN better.

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by Rays_Rev on May 21, 2011 10:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

HE ONLY HAS 8 RBI IN 110 PA. YES, HE HAS TO DO BETTER

The caller said the boy, after removing the bulb from its socket, left the building and threw the bulb on the ground. When the bulb broke, the caller said the boy screamed "My electrolytes are down after the workout today…I fail"

by Top Gun Numba 1 on May 21, 2011 10:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

Again..

he doesn’t get credit for doing better last night?

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by Rays_Rev on May 21, 2011 10:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

You can't be serious

The caller said the boy, after removing the bulb from its socket, left the building and threw the bulb on the ground. When the bulb broke, the caller said the boy screamed "My electrolytes are down after the workout today…I fail"

by Top Gun Numba 1 on May 21, 2011 10:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

I agree. He needs to do better.

But so does Longo.

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by Rays_Rev on May 21, 2011 10:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

That will literally never happen

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by Jonah Keri on Jun 19, 2010 10:31 PM EDT

by Doug09 on May 21, 2011 10:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

What? Kotch doing better..

or an article about situational hitting calling out Longo.

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by Rays_Rev on May 21, 2011 10:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

"But so does Longo."

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by Jonah Keri on Jun 19, 2010 10:31 PM EDT

by Doug09 on May 21, 2011 10:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

Fine, but Longo has the same number of RBI in 31 less PA

The caller said the boy, after removing the bulb from its socket, left the building and threw the bulb on the ground. When the bulb broke, the caller said the boy screamed "My electrolytes are down after the workout today…I fail"

by Top Gun Numba 1 on May 21, 2011 10:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

So, he is doing better than Kotchman.

The caller said the boy, after removing the bulb from its socket, left the building and threw the bulb on the ground. When the bulb broke, the caller said the boy screamed "My electrolytes are down after the workout today…I fail"

by Top Gun Numba 1 on May 21, 2011 10:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

Seriously….very few hits, not so many walks….inferior pitchers are cruising on us (Bergesen?!….look what the Yanks did to him).

by gogodrays on May 21, 2011 8:37 AM EDT reply actions  

Absolutley, we could put up graphs, tables, splits, pith f/x

all the cute little advanced stat terms B-ref, FG, Statcorner has, but the bottom line is this team is putrid on offense

Going into last night, we scored 2 R or less 36% of the time, and in the last seven games we scored more than 3 twice, and guess what we’re 2-5

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by sternfan1 on May 21, 2011 8:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

And over our last 14

we scored more than 3 eight times, and guess what we’re 8-6.

See what I just did there? Just as representative, if not moreso than what you wrote.

I’ll stick with the graphs and tables (and people who make them). At least they are attempting to be honest.

by GomesSweetGomes on May 21, 2011 9:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

I don't think anyone is saying it isn't a putrid offense. We start people like Fuld, Kotchman, E. Johnson/Brignac, Jaso/Shoppach, S. Rodriguez.

But the Giants won a World Series last year with a putrid offense and a terrible defense. At least we have a very good defense.

The caller said the boy, after removing the bulb from its socket, left the building and threw the bulb on the ground. When the bulb broke, the caller said the boy screamed "My electrolytes are down after the workout today…I fail"

by Top Gun Numba 1 on May 21, 2011 9:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

Also consider that there is a really really low offensive environment in general across the league this year.

The caller said the boy, after removing the bulb from its socket, left the building and threw the bulb on the ground. When the bulb broke, the caller said the boy screamed "My electrolytes are down after the workout today…I fail"

by Top Gun Numba 1 on May 21, 2011 10:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

Anyone know what it would take to get Yonder Alonso?

Cobb or Torres + a bat?

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by Jonah Keri on Jun 19, 2010 10:31 PM EDT

by Doug09 on May 21, 2011 10:08 AM EDT reply actions  

The Reds' willingness to do so

Prospect for prospect trades are more rare than a Reid Brignac extra base hit. They simply do not happen.

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by Jason Collette on May 21, 2011 10:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

Unless they involve Brett Wallace

The caller said the boy, after removing the bulb from its socket, left the building and threw the bulb on the ground. When the bulb broke, the caller said the boy screamed "My electrolytes are down after the workout today…I fail"

by Top Gun Numba 1 on May 21, 2011 10:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yea, but he was traded by 2x in one day

so they needed some help to get that done

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by Jason Collette on May 21, 2011 10:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

That's not true
December 16, 2009: Traded by the Oakland Athletics to the Toronto Blue Jays for Michael Taylor (minors).
July 29, 2010: Traded by the Toronto Blue Jays to the Houston Astros for Anthony Gose (minors).

The caller said the boy, after removing the bulb from its socket, left the building and threw the bulb on the ground. When the bulb broke, the caller said the boy screamed "My electrolytes are down after the workout today…I fail"

by Top Gun Numba 1 on May 21, 2011 10:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

Who was traded from Philly in the Halladay deal to get Taylor who Beane wanted to part with Wallace

We’re almost playing six degrees of separation to find one trade in recent memory of prospects being swapped. That alone should speak to how unusual these types of deals are.

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by Jason Collette on May 21, 2011 10:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

My point is that they are unusual except in the case of Brett Wallace. He's now been traded for another prospect twice, and not in the same day.

The caller said the boy, after removing the bulb from its socket, left the building and threw the bulb on the ground. When the bulb broke, the caller said the boy screamed "My electrolytes are down after the workout today…I fail"

by Top Gun Numba 1 on May 21, 2011 10:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

Why am I recalling that deal as one where he never got to unpack his suitcase?

I must be confusing him with someone else

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by Jason Collette on May 21, 2011 11:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

Taylor is the one who was shipped 2x in one day

The caller said the boy, after removing the bulb from its socket, left the building and threw the bulb on the ground. When the bulb broke, the caller said the boy screamed "My electrolytes are down after the workout today…I fail"

by Top Gun Numba 1 on May 21, 2011 11:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

Also, the Taylor for Wallace swap was 6 months after the Holliday trade (not Halladay, not Philly)

The caller said the boy, after removing the bulb from its socket, left the building and threw the bulb on the ground. When the bulb broke, the caller said the boy screamed "My electrolytes are down after the workout today…I fail"

by Top Gun Numba 1 on May 21, 2011 11:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah? I'm not super sold on Wallace. I guess I'm one of those people that believes if someone is passed around that much there must be something off about him

The caller said the boy, after removing the bulb from its socket, left the building and threw the bulb on the ground. When the bulb broke, the caller said the boy screamed "My electrolytes are down after the workout today…I fail"

by Top Gun Numba 1 on May 21, 2011 11:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

YOUR GIRLFRIEND WAS PASSED AROUND A LOT YET YOU STAY WITH HER

where are my gifs? is this a new thread? you guys are litl fucking sluts. uck you guys. i bet you guys tmpons in the womines bathromms and pay 75 cents for each ne. fuck you

by daveh33 on Sep 3, 2010 11:09 PM EDT reply actions

by PriceMultiCyYoungs on May 21, 2011 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

I don't have a girlfriend, that's why I spend thousands of dollars in strip clubs in an effort to dull my pain with booze and herpes

The caller said the boy, after removing the bulb from its socket, left the building and threw the bulb on the ground. When the bulb broke, the caller said the boy screamed "My electrolytes are down after the workout today…I fail"

by Top Gun Numba 1 on May 21, 2011 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

*high five*

where are my gifs? is this a new thread? you guys are litl fucking sluts. uck you guys. i bet you guys tmpons in the womines bathromms and pay 75 cents for each ne. fuck you

by daveh33 on Sep 3, 2010 11:09 PM EDT reply actions

by PriceMultiCyYoungs on May 21, 2011 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

Also, the Taylor for Wallace swap was 6 months after the Holliday trade (not Halladay, not Philly)

The caller said the boy, after removing the bulb from its socket, left the building and threw the bulb on the ground. When the bulb broke, the caller said the boy screamed "My electrolytes are down after the workout today…I fail"

by Top Gun Numba 1 on May 21, 2011 11:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

This has to be a special case though, the guy has been and will be blocked right? He can't DH, obviously. And he's been a perfect fit for the Rays for a few years now.

I know it’s rare, but damn would it be nice.

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by Jonah Keri on Jun 19, 2010 10:31 PM EDT

by Doug09 on May 21, 2011 10:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

He can only play 1st

He’s doesn’t have the athleticism to play anywhere else

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by Jason Collette on May 21, 2011 10:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ya, he turned the wrong way, it was poorly played.

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by Jonah Keri on Jun 19, 2010 10:31 PM EDT

by Doug09 on May 21, 2011 10:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

Is there something wrong with spinning around 270 degrees and making an awful throw from 110 feet?

The caller said the boy, after removing the bulb from its socket, left the building and threw the bulb on the ground. When the bulb broke, the caller said the boy screamed "My electrolytes are down after the workout today…I fail"

by Top Gun Numba 1 on May 21, 2011 10:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

Don't worry, Jason....

You guys have inspired me to start a #MagicofKotch RBI count on twitter. It’ll be easy to track his improvement 1 RBI at a time.

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by Rays_Rev on May 21, 2011 10:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

And if he doesn't...

I’ll be sure to give the ANALYSTS credit for being right. :)

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by Rays_Rev on May 21, 2011 11:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

I appreciate your irrationality here putting me in a position where I have to agree with Collette. Thanks for that

The caller said the boy, after removing the bulb from its socket, left the building and threw the bulb on the ground. When the bulb broke, the caller said the boy screamed "My electrolytes are down after the workout today…I fail"

by Top Gun Numba 1 on May 21, 2011 11:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

Irrational is my middle name...

contrary to popular belief, it’s not “Attention Whore”

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by Rays_Rev on May 21, 2011 11:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

Irrationality is your Baptismal name, "Attention Whore" is just a nickname

The caller said the boy, after removing the bulb from its socket, left the building and threw the bulb on the ground. When the bulb broke, the caller said the boy screamed "My electrolytes are down after the workout today…I fail"

by Top Gun Numba 1 on May 21, 2011 11:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

fair enough.

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by Rays_Rev on May 21, 2011 11:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

I don't think I overly criticized either one...

I wasn’t much of a James Shields hater except to say I thought Garza was better than him. Which was true, last year. However, I will say: So far, you were right.

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by Rays_Rev on May 21, 2011 11:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

My buddy "Sam from Tampa"

does still hate James Shields w/ a passion.

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by Rays_Rev on May 21, 2011 11:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

there were more people yelling about Shields down the stretch & starting in ALDS than I care to remember

There were just a select few of us that defended him this off-season and said he’d be fine in 2011 and would be at the top of the rotation. I recall several people ranting on about that he was nothing more than a 4 or 5 on this team now.

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by Jason Collette on May 21, 2011 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

Nope. It's going to be a straight RBI count.

Kotchman can’t hit homers anyways. So it’s not like he’s going to get too many RBI’s w/o RISP.

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by Rays_Rev on May 21, 2011 11:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

Also, Zobrist needs to stop with the mental lapses. 2 in as many days (or 3 days?).

Obviously he’ll get it together, but if I recall both errors had a big impact on both games?

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by Jonah Keri on Jun 19, 2010 10:31 PM EDT

by Doug09 on May 21, 2011 10:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

I dislike Zobrist at 2B

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by Rays_Rev on May 21, 2011 11:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe this year, but over his career he's been a good 2b

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by Top Gun Numba 1 on May 21, 2011 11:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

If kotchman is so great at getting on base we should just lead him off.

So what if he’s slow. And if he starts not hitting we can just leave him up there for a couple weeks.

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by blackraven on May 21, 2011 11:05 AM EDT reply actions  

lol

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by Doug09 on May 21, 2011 11:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

I vote for this.

Will make my #MagicofKotch RBI count & #MagicofKotch drum beat happen more often.

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by Rays_Rev on May 21, 2011 11:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

#kotchdoggroup

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by Top Gun Numba 1 on May 21, 2011 11:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'll buy 5 t-shirts

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by Top Gun Numba 1 on May 21, 2011 11:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

A couple points

1- Kotchman for the most part bats 7th in the Rays line up

2- Anyone who claims he’s never seen a runner tag and score on that pop out to1B, was at his first rodeo

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by sternfan1 on May 21, 2011 11:07 AM EDT reply actions  

I was using overall RBI, but if you want to go with his position in the lineup, Collette was using opportunities with RISP, where Kotchman actually TRAILS Brignac, with MORE opportunities.

Bringing up spot in the lineup is not a good thing for your side here buddy.

2- Maybe a shitty 1b, but Kotch is a defensive stud, remember?

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by Top Gun Numba 1 on May 21, 2011 11:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

I honestly don't understand how day in, day out, he is the reason

for all that is wrong with the Rays

Simple question, have the Rays been better or worse with him in the line up?

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by sternfan1 on May 21, 2011 11:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

He was cited as ONE example of some of the problems here

and yet he’s being made out to be the sole focus of the entire piece.

It’s dumbass bullshit like this that takes the joy out of writing

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by Jason Collette on May 21, 2011 11:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

Wait you mean there are other people not driving in runs?!?!??!1

I think readers just ctrl+f Kotchman and get ready to disagree at this point.

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by blackraven on May 21, 2011 11:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

If they have, it apparently has nothing to do with him. He's being called out because he has LITERALLY BEEN THE WORST PLAYER ON THE TEAM BATTING WITH RUNNERS IN SCORING POSITION. THAT IS WHAT THIS POST IS ABOUT

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by Top Gun Numba 1 on May 21, 2011 11:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

We're not predicting here buddy, we're pointing out how terrible the team HAS BEEN

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by Top Gun Numba 1 on May 21, 2011 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

don't patronize me

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by sternfan1 on May 21, 2011 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

Make some fucking sense and I won't

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by Top Gun Numba 1 on May 21, 2011 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ok here goes

Casey Kotchman is a POS, and needs to be replaced at once

Also let Reid Brignac play everyday SS, and he’ll break out and hit 300

Bring back Felipe Lopez and rid yourself of Sean Rod

Better?

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by sternfan1 on May 21, 2011 11:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

I would love you to show me one instance of anyone suggesting this:

“Bring back Felipe Lopez and rid yourself of Sean Rod”

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by blackraven on May 21, 2011 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

I don't know who you think you're responding to here buddy, but I didn't say any of those things. You've got a hard-on for DRB and are obsessed with the Kotchman thing to the point where you aren't rational in your posts about it.

Please tell me, without talking about ANY OTHER ROSTER ISSUE OR PLAYER, if you think that Kotchman has been, is, or will be, acceptable with runners in scoring position.

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by Top Gun Numba 1 on May 21, 2011 11:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ok, RISP varies from year to year on any player

i don’t see him over the long haul if he keeps hitting to be anything but productive w/RISP

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by sternfan1 on May 21, 2011 11:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

Oh, I know that Collette has a hard-on for you. I'm not talking about that.

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by Top Gun Numba 1 on May 21, 2011 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

That's why Collette brought up stats based on opportunities with RISP, showing that Kotchman is worse than AA bat Reid Brignac

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by Top Gun Numba 1 on May 21, 2011 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

SSS, read my fanpost

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by sternfan1 on May 21, 2011 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

We're talking about the entire year. You want to use that same sample to talk about how Kotchman is now all of a sudden a passable MLB hitter, so why can't we use that for his RISP?

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by Top Gun Numba 1 on May 21, 2011 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

How he's done year by year with RISP

I Year PA H 2B 3B HR RBI BB SO BA OBP SLG OPS GDP BAbip sOPS+
2004 34 10 5 0 0 14 5 3 .385 .500 .577 1.077 1 .417 178
2005 35 10 2 0 2 17 2 5 .323 .353 .581 .934 1 .320 139
2006 29 3 1 0 0 5 2 3 .115 .179 .154 .332 1 .130 -14
2007 142 36 6 0 2 51 14 13 .295 .359 .393 .753 6 .304 94
2008 160 40 9 0 3 59 16 8 .290 .369 .420 .789 4 .285 105
2009 127 29 8 0 2 39 20 11 .282 .394 .417 .811 6 .290 114
2010 122 28 8 0 3 43 17 13 .286 .385 .459 .844 9 .287 125
2011 34 8 0 0 0 5 3 4 .267 .353 .267 .620 2 .308 76
Career Total 683 164 39 0 12 233 79 60 .286 .372 .416 .788 30 .292

Better in the past, but he’s 1/4th of the way where he was the past two seasons and we’re still waiting for that first XBH with RISP. Given his increasing groundball rate, we’re likely to be waiting a long time. Extra base hits drive in runners, he’s not hitting them, which is why he is not producing at the pace he was in the past.

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by Jason Collette on May 21, 2011 11:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

Notice all of those 0's this year...just where is he going to rediscover power when 66% of his balls in play aren't getting 6" off the ground?

He can hit for average with RISP — awesome. He can earn a walk with RISP…awesome. He’s now hitting behind Joyce and Upton in the lineup, guys getting on base rather frequently, and he’s not driving them in.

Joyce has been on base at a 478 clip, Upton at a 323 clip, and Kotchman has 4 runs driven in for the month. Elliot Johnson already has six, hitting down in the lineup. Sam Fuld has 8, hitting at the top of the lineup. A successful team must get more run production from guys hitting 6th (10 times) and 7th (14 times) in its lineup. The fact Fuld has 8 RBI when the 8/9 hitters in this lineup have been mostly a black hole is rather amazing.

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by Jason Collette on May 21, 2011 11:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

He's an everyday player on the team

Shall he just be ignored?

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by Jason Collette on May 21, 2011 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

talk about Longo and his 10 game struggle

write about the catching position and the struggles there

but every day it’s Kotch, Kotch, Kotch

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by sternfan1 on May 21, 2011 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

You clearly have a reading comprehension problem

Because Longo is called out above, but yet through his “struggles”, he has outproduced Kotchman w/ RISP which was the only time in the entire piece he was specifically mentioned by name.

I need to change my sig to “sternfan10 – derailing commentary in threads since 2006”

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by Jason Collette on May 21, 2011 11:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

When articles are about the team, one tends to bring up the players on that team, yes?

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by Top Gun Numba 1 on May 21, 2011 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

player(s)---yes

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by sternfan1 on May 21, 2011 11:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

Seems to me like he is talking about playerS.

Besides, I don’t know why you’re dwelling on this. Branyan, who you have long been desiring, is a free agent now. When can we expect a fanpost on him?

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by Top Gun Numba 1 on May 21, 2011 11:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

Or is that a point that Collette et al have already brought up wanting, so now you've flipped on that

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by Top Gun Numba 1 on May 21, 2011 11:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

i'm going to do a Branyan to the Rays fan post

but it may not be in the way you’re thinking

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by sternfan1 on May 21, 2011 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

Have you changed your mind on him?

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by Top Gun Numba 1 on May 21, 2011 11:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

I was going to say we need to platoon him with Kotch, but even Branyan against LHP (where he's terrible) appears to be better than Kotchman.

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by Top Gun Numba 1 on May 21, 2011 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

Neither should face LHP

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by Jason Collette on May 21, 2011 11:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

I know, but we still don't have anyone else.

You know who isn’t bad against LHP?

http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/g/glaustr01.shtml

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by Top Gun Numba 1 on May 21, 2011 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

If I get associated with banging any drum on here, I want it to be noted that I've been calling for Glaus since Manny died

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by Top Gun Numba 1 on May 21, 2011 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

You and me both broham

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by blackraven on May 5, 2011 3:46 PM EDT

by Sandy Kazmir on May 22, 2011 8:12 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

That play was made possible by godawful footwork

The play was right in front of him — even Clew Haywood in Major League made that play closer and he was a goddamn pitcher in real life.

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by Jason Collette on May 21, 2011 11:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

blah, blah, blah

credit should have gone to Morrison for taking a low risk chance and tacking on an insurance run

Could Kotch have made the play? Yes

Would it have taken a great throw? Yes

Did the Rays lose because of it? NOOOOOOOOO

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by sternfan1 on May 21, 2011 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

The scenarios in which a runner tags up and scores on a 110 pop up play are few

All of them involve a defensive lapse in one form or another. The percentage play was not in Morrison’s favor and had he been thrown out, it would have been laughed at as was Hamilton’s play last month.

Hopefully Kotchman learns form that mistake so the next time a routine pop up comes his way, he remembers basic footwork for a lefty and spins to make that throw rather than re-enacting Happy Feet out there before throwing.

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by Jason Collette on May 21, 2011 11:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

It's a team game, and your comments have tried to make it about one player

And I’m the one accused of having an agenda?

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by Jason Collette on May 21, 2011 11:19 AM EDT reply actions  

Dude lets just trade Kotchman and Cruz (Joe) to Cleveland for Matt LaPorta

we get our 1B and SF1 can be happy with Kotchman playing for the Indians.

by Dbullsfan on May 21, 2011 11:31 AM EDT reply actions  

I think SF1 would be happy with Kotch on Cleveland. He hates them and that's the ultimate act of sabotage

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by Top Gun Numba 1 on May 21, 2011 11:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

maybe they don't want Cruz but I wonder how much it would cost to get LaPorta

if it isn’t that much I’d rather take a flyer on him than a guy that just got beat out by Xavier Nady and Juan Miranda.

by Dbullsfan on May 21, 2011 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

Here's a post game comment that needs to be touched on

Why PH Shoppach there? He Ks 40% of the time and v a 12 K/9 pitcher that’s only getting worse

Also, if he hits theball he’s a pull hitter so a GB doesn’t move the runner

Allow Jaso to hit or PH Fuld and let him bunt the runner to 3B

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by sternfan1 on May 21, 2011 11:40 AM EDT reply actions  

I agree

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by Top Gun Numba 1 on May 21, 2011 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

We all pretty much hated the move in the GDT

The situation screamed for a bunt, and anyone could have laid it down. That was another example of bad situational hitting and one that’s tough to look up because “productive outs” are not broken down into moving guys over from 2nd to 3rd. It is something this team has not done well with this season.

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by Jason Collette on May 21, 2011 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

that has to go on Joe though

He should have known that he was putting Shoppach in a bad spot, although they were lefties and the match-up screamed for a righty. I think either Jaso or Fuld would have had a much better chance to get the runner over.

by Dbullsfan on May 21, 2011 11:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

Jennings could really help..... just saying.

The Rays are jsut in a slump now, whether with guys on or not. Jaso has an option, right?

by mr. maniac on May 21, 2011 11:45 AM EDT reply actions  

So does Brignac

also i’ve been keeping an eye on Chirinos—hitting over 300 last 10 games but w/o XBH

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by sternfan1 on May 21, 2011 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

A a high BABIP.

The cut down on Ks are encouaging though. I still love his swing.

by mr. maniac on May 21, 2011 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

unless we bring in someone outside the organization I wouldn't expect help anytime soon.

We really are going to need the pitching staff to carry us through the next month. Longoria getting hot will help too.

by Dbullsfan on May 21, 2011 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

here's a little move we can make

Id Sonny is not making the start on WED, send him down for 4 days and call up Guyer, especially with BJ hurt

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by sternfan1 on May 21, 2011 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

One more point you can beat me up on

There is no way in hell Sean Rodriguez should sit behind Reid Brignac or Elliot Johnson—None

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by sternfan1 on May 21, 2011 11:49 AM EDT reply actions  

against LHP yes

but he should be behind both against righties. He looks almost worse than Reid out there against RHP.

by Dbullsfan on May 21, 2011 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

i'll take my chances with Sean Rod over Reid v any type pitching

and w/o looking i’ll bet Sen did just as well v RHP in the minors than Brignac, especially power wise

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by sternfan1 on May 21, 2011 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

apples and bananas

Rodriguez played in the Cal, Tex, and PCL leagues coming up. This would have to come down to a pure scouting level and even at that, nobody is going to argue Rodriguez does not have more raw power than Brignac. If you look at park-adjusted MLE’s for Rodriguez:

.228/.309/.452 vs RHP in AAA 2009
.236/.317/.508 vs RHP in AAA in 2008
.200/.260/.319 vs RHP in AA in 2007
.199/.248/.340 vs RHP in A in 2006

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by Jason Collette on May 21, 2011 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

park adgusted MLE--WoW

i give very little credence to MLE, much less throw in park adgusted

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by sternfan1 on May 21, 2011 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Why?

How else can you properly statistically evaluate players in pinball ballparks in the Cal & PCL leagues?

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by Jason Collette on May 21, 2011 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

State your case why Rodriguez should play vs RHP over both of those guys

Just from the offensive standpoint. Opinions are fine — but we back them up with data around here.

So far this season, he has 53 PA’s vs RHP and has a slash line of .106/.192/.255 with 4 walks and 14 K’s, which is the worst line of all AL middle infielders with at least 50 PAs
 
For his carer, he’s at .212/.267/.357 with a 1:6 walk to strikeout rate.

That’s a 73% fail rate just getting on base against RHP; any gains would only come in the ability to hit XBH on the occasion that Rodriguez ran into one. In 446 plate appearances against RHP, he has 33 extra base hits; he has 23 XBH in 208 less PA’s vs LHP.

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by Jason Collette on May 21, 2011 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

of course my reasoning is not based on this season's stats

my feeling on Sean is, he’s always been an every day player, and when he knows he’s going to play, he’ll produce

i realize that is not a statistical evaluation

Brignac has NEVER hit above AA, and to your point on Ruggiano, Elliot was once removed from the 40 man, so how good could he be/

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by sternfan1 on May 21, 2011 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

I wasn't signaling out either player over Rodriguez

But Rodriguez has done nothing against RHP to justify the increased playing time yet. Look at how amazing Joyce has been this year yet he still only gets to hit against lefties with reverse splits.

The team clearly sees something we do not. Rodriguez puts on laser shows in batting practice when I’m down on the field pre-game but the results have no translated to any on-field success thus far this season as he’s not hitting either handed pitcher.

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by Jason Collette on May 21, 2011 12:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

actually the BP stuff is good to hear

it tells me he knows his leash is short as to when he’s going to play and he presses

call it a hunch, but it’s how i see him, and i’ve watched baseball over 40 years

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by sternfan1 on May 21, 2011 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Travis Lee was also infamous for crushing BP

I’d see him regularly put them at the base of the scoreboard in RF

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by Jason Collette on May 21, 2011 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

maybe you can come up with the name of this player i'm thinking of

he was the Babe Ruth of minor league baseball

i know he was in the Tigers system and also i think recall the Rays had him in their early days, but his name escapes me

help?

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by sternfan1 on May 21, 2011 12:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Kevin Witt

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by Jason Collette on May 21, 2011 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

thank you

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by sternfan1 on May 21, 2011 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sean Rodriguez could be that player who can't perform in a platoon situation for an entire career

For his sake, i’d love for the Rays to trade him where he’ll play MIF everyday, and i’m guessing put up very good numbers

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by sternfan1 on May 21, 2011 12:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

In other news, Alex Colome is hitting his stride.

Moore continues to dominate, T BEX hits, and Cody Rogers shows off power with nothin else.

by mr. maniac on May 21, 2011 12:25 PM EDT reply actions  

Shockingly enough

Moore is already up to #2 in K’s in the minors, he is unstoppable.

Under construction

by joeybw on May 21, 2011 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

and he is a notiorious slow starter

if he has a typical 2nd half he may put up record numbers

by Dbullsfan on May 21, 2011 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

more impressed with his 5:1 K/BB rate thus far

and he’s gone 4 straight starts w/o giving up a HR

dude is a monster

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by Jason Collette on May 21, 2011 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

What's up with Archer?

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by Jonah Keri on Jun 19, 2010 10:31 PM EDT

by Doug09 on May 21, 2011 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

loss of command

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by Jason Collette on May 21, 2011 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

He never really had command much.

His numbers last year were very deceptive.

by mr. maniac on May 21, 2011 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

he has been much more hittable

and when you don’t have command and people are hitting you it is a pretty bad combination. I’m not giving up on him based on the slow start but he has been very disappointing so far.

by Dbullsfan on May 21, 2011 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

He's a hard worker he will be ok

I'm not sure if you're serious...If you are, the reasons are simple:
1) Dutton’s xBABIP has to be input by hand, so it takes a long time to calculate.
2) I do this for free.

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by SRQman on May 21, 2011 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think so

but I believe if we had to re rank the prospects from that trade he should be below both Lee and Guyer, of course that has about as much to do with those guys hot start as well.

by Dbullsfan on May 21, 2011 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

is Cole Figuora good enough to block Lee

I wouldn’t mind seeing Lee/Beckham working up the middle for Montgomery.

by Dbullsfan on May 21, 2011 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Seriously though, we have SS out the ass.

I’m assuming we’ll move each SS (Dietrich, Lee, Beckham) up a level every year, is that the plan?

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by Jonah Keri on Jun 19, 2010 10:31 PM EDT

by Doug09 on May 21, 2011 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

I believe so depending on if they decide to move any of them off the position

because we don’t really have anyone at 2B or 3B so either DD or TB could be moved.

by Dbullsfan on May 21, 2011 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Josh Johnson to the DL

We catch another break!

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by Jason Collette on May 21, 2011 12:30 PM EDT reply actions  

Let's not Weaver this break please

Win these next 2, guys

Under construction

by joeybw on May 21, 2011 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Fuck, I'm going to lose my matchup this week now. God dammit.

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by Jonah Keri on Jun 19, 2010 10:31 PM EDT

by Doug09 on May 21, 2011 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

He's got Hellickson type stuff

Only he looks much worse with it.

Then again, it’s probably not fair to compare guys to Hellickson.

Under construction

by joeybw on May 21, 2011 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Courtesy of rotoworld

Marlins purchased the contract of RHP Jay Buente from Triple-A New Orleans.
He’ll start in place of Josh Johnson on Sunday against the Rays. Buente, 27, had a 1.94 ERA and 44/10 K/BB ratio over five starts and five relief appearances with the Zephyrs. He posted a 6.55 ERA over eight relief appearances with the Marlins last season. Look elsewhere in fantasy leagues.

Yes that would be 6.55 and a guy who is not used to even starting in the majors, if we can’t get Shields a W against this guy…..

Under construction

by joeybw on May 21, 2011 12:53 PM EDT reply actions  

My thoughts:

The point about cherry picking RBI has some validity. By this I mean Kotchman is 2nd only to Joyce in on-base percentage with men on at .360. He’s not exactly killing rallys. Its true he’s certainly not a slugger, but that isn’t even the expectation with him. He’s also 2nd in OBP with RISP.

1st base traditionally is a slugging position but its not essential to offensive success. If Kotch was a true .360 OBPer I could live with low slugging numbers with a plus glove. THere are other Rays far more “at fault” to date for the offensive drought.

This site has always had a disdain for the RBI stat based on the randomness, and instead concentrated on rate stats. Naturally it rears its head with Kotch.

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by FreeZorilla on May 21, 2011 7:36 PM EDT reply actions  

This piece wasn't about any individual person - it was about the team's struggles in driving in runs in certain situations

It’s why I didn’t focus on getting on base in that part because unless you’re walking with the bases loaded, it doesn’t matter. I made sure I included the good Kotchman news first to try to avoid the Pandora’ box nature I knew would arise if I dared mention him in anything but a positive light, but it did not matter.

I could live with what he was doing if he were hitting where Mientkiewicz or Kotsay did as they played first base, but now he’s being asked to hit 6th which is a run-producing position

If you want to project RBI’s moving forward for 6-8 hitters:

(0.63 x games played x team obp) + (0.27 x ind total bases) + (.25 x HR) – (.191x games played)

(0.63 × 36 × .308) + (.27 × 43) + (.25 × 1) – (.191 × 36) = 55

He has 8 thus far, leaving 47 for the rest of the way. 55 RBI from a 1B, hitting in the 6 hole, is a problem when the guys behind him are functionally worse as hitters right now.

Please give this another sniff test because it doesn’t “smell of agenda”; I laid out my intentions of this story right from the get-go.

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by Jason Collette on May 22, 2011 9:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

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