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OTTOTD: The Icebucss are pretty good!

But, which one's the quarterback?

Justified. We should talk about it.

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In number theory, Fermat's Last Theorem states that no three positive integers a, b, and c can satisfy the equation an + bn = cn for any integer value of n greater than two. This theorem was first conjectured by Pierre de Fermat in 1637, famously in the margin of a copy of Arithmetica where he claimed he had a proof that was too large to fit in the margin. No successful proof was published until 1995 despite the efforts of countless mathematicians during the 358 intervening years. The unsolved problem stimulated the development of algebraic number theory in the 19th century and the proof of the modularity theorem in the 20th. It is among the most famous theorems in the history of mathematics and prior to its 1995 proof was in the Guinness Book of World Records for "most difficult math problem".

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The DMB Line combining for 11 goals in 7 games.

"I have a formula for excitability actually." - RJ Anderson

by ReasonableDoubt on May 5, 2011 10:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

Downie-Moore-Bergenheim

Just as sensitive, not as awful.

"I have a formula for excitability actually." - RJ Anderson

by ReasonableDoubt on May 5, 2011 10:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

As for Justified:

Great season! Good episode! Well-executed, intense, but poorly written last 10 minutes!

@ptSuttery

by Suttree on May 5, 2011 10:04 AM EDT reply actions  

Raylan getting bailed out not once, but twice, by perfectly time interruptions was a bit much for me.

They wrote him into situations he couldn’t get himself out of and took the easy way out. The first time Boyd shows up quickly enough that Dickie couldn’t do any real damage. The second time before Doyle could put a bullet in his head.

That said, Doyle taking one between the eyes was pretty great. His deflection of Raylan’s “the girl’s got a gun” — did Doyle think Raylan was bluffing? Or did he just not care about his momma anymore?

@ptSuttery

by Suttree on May 5, 2011 10:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

Spoiler alert bro

As you can always expect come from behind victory is when you least expect it.

by Buc Wild on May 5, 2011 6:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Also, green poops.

Pretty great if you ask me. Can’t decide if I like them more than the rock-hard deposits, though.

@ptSuttery

by Suttree on May 5, 2011 10:07 AM EDT reply actions  

THis probably raises the bar in the OTTOTD

As you can always expect come from behind victory is when you least expect it.

by Buc Wild on May 5, 2011 6:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

To appropriate this from deceased Drays Bay user @TheKidPow:

Based on all the hockey I’ve watched this season, Sean Bergenheim must be the best player in the NHL.

@ptSuttery

by Suttree on May 5, 2011 10:10 AM EDT reply actions  

.....
“I had a major hand and play in this wonderful thing, getting him out of the mountains and down to the valleys… Someone had to get him out of there. That’s where I came in,” Gary Faulkner of Greeley, Colorado, told ABC News. "I scared the squirrel out of his hole, he popped his head up and he got capped. “I’m proud of our boys, I’m very proud of our government… They were handed this opportunity on a platter from myself,” he said.

I'm an F18, Bro

by Sveet on May 5, 2011 10:10 AM EDT reply actions  

....
Faulkner dismisses U.S. officials who said bin Laden was believed to have lived in the compound for as many as six years.

“He hadn’t been living there for no damn six years,” Faulkner said. “I absolutely flushed him out.”

I'm an F18, Bro

by Sveet on May 5, 2011 10:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

How awesome would this have been
In previous attempts, Faulkner had tried to use a hang glider to approach bin Laden’s suspected cave, but had to call those plans off after disastrous dry runs with the hang glider in Israel.

Hang gliding in to his cave with his samurai sword

I'm an F18, Bro

by Sveet on May 5, 2011 10:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

Great job on the title Sutty

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by DeadeyeRR on May 5, 2011 10:14 AM EDT reply actions  

Woohoo!

This could be awesome or an absolute catastrophe.

@ptSuttery

by Suttree on May 5, 2011 10:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

Dig it

@SandyKazmir Die or Ride, You Decide

by Sandy Kazmir on May 5, 2011 10:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

They have to try it

Brignac is a shade above a pitcher at the plate right now….the glove is fine but his at bats are pretty much piss-breaks for me right now

by Jason Collette on May 5, 2011 10:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

"are"

The caller said the boy, after removing the bulb from its socket, left the building and threw the bulb on the ground. When the bulb broke, the caller said the boy screamed "how bout Fergs at nest home stand..SuperCyberMan?"

by Top Gun Numba 1 on May 5, 2011 10:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

meeeeh, Briggy's been really bad.

like, worse than Adam Everett. You need atleast some offense.

@ptSuttery

by Suttree on May 5, 2011 10:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

It's a confidence thing -- his at bats are pure shit right now

He looks completely overmatched and lacks confidence. Give him a day off and let him go to Baltimore with a fresh head where he always rakes well and maybe that gets him back on track.

by Jason Collette on May 5, 2011 10:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

I feel like Brig's got serious power potential.

Somebody get that kid to the Swing Mechanic™!

@ptSuttery

by Suttree on May 5, 2011 10:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

That is awful.

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by DeadeyeRR on May 5, 2011 10:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

I never get the take a day off to clear your head and then everything will be fine line

Punishing a guy is one thing, sitting a guy against a same-hander is another, but sitting a guy so that he can get his confidence back sitting on the bench doesn’t make sense. I hope he rakes and I look like a fool, anything for this team to hit better

@SandyKazmir Die or Ride, You Decide

by Sandy Kazmir on May 5, 2011 10:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

Maddon is also a fan of giving guys a day off before an off-day

and since Britton is going tomorrow, tomorrow is an off-day for Brignac anyhow.

by Jason Collette on May 5, 2011 10:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

That's a good point, I buy that a bit more

If you don’t start him against a righty there’s almost 0 chance he gets in the game to PH late either

@SandyKazmir Die or Ride, You Decide

by Sandy Kazmir on May 5, 2011 10:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

If you're seriously sad that we won't have Felipe Lopez manning one of the two middle infield spots I don't know what to tell you. He's an abortion on the field

The caller said the boy, after removing the bulb from its socket, left the building and threw the bulb on the ground. When the bulb broke, the caller said the boy screamed "how bout Fergs at nest home stand..SuperCyberMan?"

by Top Gun Numba 1 on May 5, 2011 10:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

Less of an abortion

The caller said the boy, after removing the bulb from its socket, left the building and threw the bulb on the ground. When the bulb broke, the caller said the boy screamed "how bout Fergs at nest home stand..SuperCyberMan?"

by Top Gun Numba 1 on May 5, 2011 10:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

Higher wOBA projection from ZipS and I like him at SS more.

Felipe should become a reliever.

Follow Me on Twitter @FreeZorilla

by FreeZorilla on May 5, 2011 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

"on the field"

Follow Me on Twitter @FreeZorilla

by FreeZorilla on May 5, 2011 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ugh, that's so dumb

@SandyKazmir Die or Ride, You Decide

by Sandy Kazmir on May 5, 2011 10:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

plus-plus curve

Let’s hope he hangs one to Sean

by Jason Collette on May 5, 2011 10:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

TROY GLAUS

The caller said the boy, after removing the bulb from its socket, left the building and threw the bulb on the ground. When the bulb broke, the caller said the boy screamed "how bout Fergs at nest home stand..SuperCyberMan?"

by Top Gun Numba 1 on May 5, 2011 10:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

No, I'm not telling you that. I've been suggesting him for weeks now

The caller said the boy, after removing the bulb from its socket, left the building and threw the bulb on the ground. When the bulb broke, the caller said the boy screamed "how bout Fergs at nest home stand..SuperCyberMan?"

by Top Gun Numba 1 on May 5, 2011 11:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm pretty sure I said it first, but that's cool

The caller said the boy, after removing the bulb from its socket, left the building and threw the bulb on the ground. When the bulb broke, the caller said the boy screamed "how bout Fergs at nest home stand..SuperCyberMan?"

by Top Gun Numba 1 on May 5, 2011 11:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

No, I kiss your mother with it

The caller said the boy, after removing the bulb from its socket, left the building and threw the bulb on the ground. When the bulb broke, the caller said the boy screamed "how bout Fergs at nest home stand..SuperCyberMan?"

by Top Gun Numba 1 on May 5, 2011 11:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

You wish, dude

@SandyKazmir Die or Ride, You Decide

by Sandy Kazmir on May 5, 2011 11:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

I believed it so I did it. That's The Secret

The caller said the boy, after removing the bulb from its socket, left the building and threw the bulb on the ground. When the bulb broke, the caller said the boy screamed "how bout Fergs at nest home stand..SuperCyberMan?"

by Top Gun Numba 1 on May 5, 2011 11:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

Nick Johnson whose back is broken into 17 pieces and cannot walk

The caller said the boy, after removing the bulb from its socket, left the building and threw the bulb on the ground. When the bulb broke, the caller said the boy screamed "how bout Fergs at nest home stand..SuperCyberMan?"

by Top Gun Numba 1 on May 5, 2011 11:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

Look, we all would have accepted a transition year

But my idea of transition year isn’t watching a 27-year-old who barely hit in Triple-A and one of the worst players over the last few years get consistent playing time.

by R.J. Anderson on May 5, 2011 11:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

Believe me, I agree with you.

I just think slamming the F.O. for not having a better option at first is meh. They’re not infallible, but this seems like an area where there were very few better options.

The Elliot Johnson nonsense must stop, though.

@ptSuttery

by Suttree on May 5, 2011 11:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm not slamming them for not having a better option.

I’m not even slamming them at all, I am questioning why 50 plate appearances for DanJo is enough to swing the playing time to someone with more than 1,000 PA of failure.

by R.J. Anderson on May 5, 2011 11:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

My pet theory is they do believe you can ride a hot streak.

You can’t predict when it will start and when it will end, but face it: Kotchman is getting on base right now.

@ptSuttery

by Suttree on May 5, 2011 11:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

I was referring to DanJo going with a pitch

I don’t care about Kotch in the least. Eventually the grounders will stop sneaking through, but by then we’ll get to watch his BA/OBP/SLG slowly drop instead of slowly rise. You know the fans are more likely to get behind a guy that has his streak in the beginning and not the end. When it matters he’s going to be dogshit.

@SandyKazmir Die or Ride, You Decide

by Sandy Kazmir on May 5, 2011 11:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

Obvs, but if Branyan didn't want to sign here, he didn't want to sign here.

I just have a hard time believing that the Rays did not pursue him. They signed him once.

@ptSuttery

by Suttree on May 5, 2011 11:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

Injury prone first baseman whose talent is to not move

The caller said the boy, after removing the bulb from its socket, left the building and threw the bulb on the ground. When the bulb broke, the caller said the boy screamed "how bout Fergs at nest home stand..SuperCyberMan?"

by Top Gun Numba 1 on May 5, 2011 11:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

I like Zobrist in the two-hole.

I am not a fan of Damon batting third.

@ptSuttery

by Suttree on May 5, 2011 10:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

except for Joyce and Kotchman

these numbers were before last night’s game

by Jason Collette on May 5, 2011 10:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well, that .475 babip seems sustainable

The caller said the boy, after removing the bulb from its socket, left the building and threw the bulb on the ground. When the bulb broke, the caller said the boy screamed "how bout Fergs at nest home stand..SuperCyberMan?"

by Top Gun Numba 1 on May 5, 2011 10:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

You put your best hitter there!

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by DeadeyeRR on May 5, 2011 10:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well, ideally, you put your best hitter first, but yes.

Should be Fuld-Zobrist-Joyce-Longoria in some order in the top 4 spots.

@ptSuttery

by Suttree on May 5, 2011 10:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

Fuld is gonna get the Bartlett treatment, though.

Until Jennings is up, that scrappy motherfucker is going to bat leadoff, no matter how hard he regresses.

@ptSuttery

by Suttree on May 5, 2011 10:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

My only qualm is Zobot power.

I’m sure the OBP will turn itself around, though.

@ptSuttery

by Suttree on May 5, 2011 10:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

Where is E. Johnson?

The caller said the boy, after removing the bulb from its socket, left the building and threw the bulb on the ground. When the bulb broke, the caller said the boy screamed "how bout Fergs at nest home stand..SuperCyberMan?"

by Top Gun Numba 1 on May 5, 2011 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Also, St. Pete Times: rah, rah, the Rays only had 10k the last two nights!

Couldn’t have anything to do with 20k other folks going to some other important sporting event in the area, could it?

@ptSuttery

by Suttree on May 5, 2011 10:14 AM EDT reply actions  

I love it when I'm working the games

I actually get home at a decent time.

Last 6:40 game I worked, I was back in Orlando before midnight. I worked the Friday night game and got home at 1:45 in the morning :(

by Jason Collette on May 5, 2011 10:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

1040 doesn't get you a hotel room?

Weak sauce

"Few things are harder to put up with than the annoyance of a good example." ~ Mark Twain

by LeeCaz on May 5, 2011 10:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

I don't get paid a dime by them

I’m also now going to be doing more for the Orlando affiliate (finally)

by Jason Collette on May 5, 2011 10:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

You would think they would at least compensate you for gas mileage

but I suppose if you raised a stink about it, they would just find somebody local to do it. That sucks

"Few things are harder to put up with than the annoyance of a good example." ~ Mark Twain

by LeeCaz on May 5, 2011 10:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

Precisely

It’s costing me $35 in gas each time I come over. Luckily, just made my final car payment on my wife’s car so I have a little more flexibility in the budget as it hasn’t been easy thus far.

by Jason Collette on May 5, 2011 10:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

besides, my folks live in Dunedin

I can always crash there but since I’m also Mr. Mom in the morning and have to get the kids off to school, I have to get back home each night.

by Jason Collette on May 5, 2011 10:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

Michael Keaton is the man

"Few things are harder to put up with than the annoyance of a good example." ~ Mark Twain

by LeeCaz on May 5, 2011 10:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

PEOPLE ARE WILLING TO MISS THE START SO THEY CAN SEE THE END

(Note: People are not willing to miss the start so they can see the end)

"I have a formula for excitability actually." - RJ Anderson

by ReasonableDoubt on May 5, 2011 10:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

Solid marketing strategy.

"I have a formula for excitability actually." - RJ Anderson

by ReasonableDoubt on May 5, 2011 10:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

You think it's had a big effect?

I don’t think attendance would drastically different if these games started at 7:10

I'm an F18, Bro

by Sveet on May 5, 2011 10:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

That's pretty drastic

and I will have to disagree

I'm an F18, Bro

by Sveet on May 5, 2011 10:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

And I suppose you have a better explanation?

"I have a formula for excitability actually." - RJ Anderson

by ReasonableDoubt on May 5, 2011 10:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

Lightning in the playoffs comes top of mind pretty quick. I think you're an idiot if you're going to say things like

2K more people would show up if they started the game 30 minutes later

@SandyKazmir Die or Ride, You Decide

by Sandy Kazmir on May 5, 2011 10:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

Bolts games don't seem to have an effect on attendance. Compare the dates.

The worst of it game before the playoffs started (but after the opening skid ended)

"I have a formula for excitability actually." - RJ Anderson

by ReasonableDoubt on May 5, 2011 10:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

This and the bad start

and that we have never drawn well during weeknights especially before schools out.

Also I think people feel like

Watching the game on tv for free> Paying money to attend the game, drive there, pay inflated beer and food prices

I'm an F18, Bro

by Sveet on May 5, 2011 10:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

And actually get replays

@SandyKazmir Die or Ride, You Decide

by Sandy Kazmir on May 5, 2011 10:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

What is the rationale behind this?

"Few things are harder to put up with than the annoyance of a good example." ~ Mark Twain

by LeeCaz on May 5, 2011 10:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

I don't have access to this information.

I would doubt it, coming off a division title, but I don’t know.

"I have a formula for excitability actually." - RJ Anderson

by ReasonableDoubt on May 5, 2011 10:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

April huh?

"Few things are harder to put up with than the annoyance of a good example." ~ Mark Twain

by LeeCaz on May 5, 2011 10:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

I thought we were strictly talking about 2,000 more people showing up for a 7:10 start

I don’t think that it makes that much of a difference. Most people are off by 5 anyway. That half an hour shouldn’t sway their decision on whether to go to the game or not.

"Few things are harder to put up with than the annoyance of a good example." ~ Mark Twain

by LeeCaz on May 5, 2011 10:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

If you want to count them, that's fine. The numbers were dreadful, I was going to throw you a bone.

You want to include May games too, 10K per game is a shit-ton lower than the usual 14-15K the Rays usually get for weekday games in May.

“Shouldn’t” means fuck all in this scenario. It matters.

"I have a formula for excitability actually." - RJ Anderson

by ReasonableDoubt on May 5, 2011 10:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

There have been roughly 20,000 people at Bolts games for the past two months

You cannot convince me that a good number of those people wouldn’t have bought tix to a Rays game if the Bolts didn’t make the playoffs. It’s substitution effect and it’s killing the Rays right now. Factor in all the other people that want to watch the Bolts but can’t get in so they go to a bar or stay home and it’s not surprising that Rays attendance is down.

@SandyKazmir Die or Ride, You Decide

by Sandy Kazmir on May 5, 2011 11:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

The Lightning have played a grand total of 6 home games since the Rays season started.

4 have conflicted with the Rays – the 2 games in the first round drew ~12,000, the last two nights drew ~10,000.

The other Rays home games drew between 10-13K, with the exception of a Thursday game that drew 16 (The day before Good Friday, so I’d imagine it’s because people had off work the next day).

In 2010, weekday games in April and May drew between 12-18K.
In 2009, weekday games in April and May drew between 13-15K.

You can blame it on the Lightning all you want, but that’s not causing this problem.

"I have a formula for excitability actually." - RJ Anderson

by ReasonableDoubt on May 5, 2011 11:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

Quiet. I'm proving a point.

"I have a formula for excitability actually." - RJ Anderson

by ReasonableDoubt on May 5, 2011 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

See whatever you want man, numbers aren't your strong suit, but latching on to the faintest evidence proving your point seems to be

Correlation does not equal causation. Substitution effect is huge here

@SandyKazmir Die or Ride, You Decide

by Sandy Kazmir on May 5, 2011 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

And so proves the point. Nothing anyone says ever changes anyone's mind on this.

Attendance this year is shittier than normal, even when the Lightning aren’t playing.

Also, it takes six hours to get from Tampa to St. Petersburg.

"I have a formula for excitability actually." - RJ Anderson

by ReasonableDoubt on May 5, 2011 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

Of course it matters.

I simply disagree that it matters that much. I would say that 500 may be reasonable but 2,000 is a lot. A 6:40 start time may be even more attractive to some people because it means they will be home earlier, and if kids are coming they can still go to the game and be home in time to get to bed at a decent time. I would argue that

"Few things are harder to put up with than the annoyance of a good example." ~ Mark Twain

by LeeCaz on May 5, 2011 11:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

They actually surveyed season ticket holders and such for this

Out of the survey sample size, it scored highly enough to try out. I don’t think you’ll see it for September games.

by Jason Collette on May 5, 2011 10:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

That's what really gets me. Why would you actively dissuade people from making a snap decision to go to the game?

The caller said the boy, after removing the bulb from its socket, left the building and threw the bulb on the ground. When the bulb broke, the caller said the boy screamed "how bout Fergs at nest home stand..SuperCyberMan?"

by Top Gun Numba 1 on May 5, 2011 10:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed

"I have a formula for excitability actually." - RJ Anderson

by ReasonableDoubt on May 5, 2011 10:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think most people just assume the tickets will be same or cheaper

and once they get there they pretty much feel like they are already there so they may as well just pay the extra fee

"Few things are harder to put up with than the annoyance of a good example." ~ Mark Twain

by LeeCaz on May 5, 2011 10:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

And then don't come back

The caller said the boy, after removing the bulb from its socket, left the building and threw the bulb on the ground. When the bulb broke, the caller said the boy screamed "how bout Fergs at nest home stand..SuperCyberMan?"

by Top Gun Numba 1 on May 5, 2011 10:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

The other reason would be to try to get people to buy in advance so they can pre-plan revenues and staffing or something

The caller said the boy, after removing the bulb from its socket, left the building and threw the bulb on the ground. When the bulb broke, the caller said the boy screamed "how bout Fergs at nest home stand..SuperCyberMan?"

by Top Gun Numba 1 on May 5, 2011 10:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

Also true, but they should do a better job of making people aware of this.

It just feels like you are getting screwed before you even walk in the door, and then you go to get a 20oz beer and hot dog and pay another $15. I don’t blame people at all for not wanting to walk up.

"Few things are harder to put up with than the annoyance of a good example." ~ Mark Twain

by LeeCaz on May 5, 2011 10:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

I completely agree

The caller said the boy, after removing the bulb from its socket, left the building and threw the bulb on the ground. When the bulb broke, the caller said the boy screamed "how bout Fergs at nest home stand..SuperCyberMan?"

by Top Gun Numba 1 on May 5, 2011 10:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

They want people to buy tickets in advance

They should just word it different. The prices you pay on gameday are the “standard” prices, but if you buy the tickets early you get a “discount”.

Works the same, but sounds better

I'm an F18, Bro

by Sveet on May 5, 2011 10:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

It does sound better.

Surprised they don’t already do this.

"Few things are harder to put up with than the annoyance of a good example." ~ Mark Twain

by LeeCaz on May 5, 2011 11:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

While stupid, that's been around for a while now.

"I have a formula for excitability actually." - RJ Anderson

by ReasonableDoubt on May 5, 2011 10:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

ATTENDANCE TALK!

As you can always expect come from behind victory is when you least expect it.

by Buc Wild on May 5, 2011 6:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Justified's last 15 minutes were really disappointing given the quality of the season, and the first 45 minutes of the episode

The caller said the boy, after removing the bulb from its socket, left the building and threw the bulb on the ground. When the bulb broke, the caller said the boy screamed "how bout Fergs at nest home stand..SuperCyberMan?"

by Top Gun Numba 1 on May 5, 2011 10:19 AM EDT reply actions  

Well, bring it on down here. Quality settles at the bottom

The caller said the boy, after removing the bulb from its socket, left the building and threw the bulb on the ground. When the bulb broke, the caller said the boy screamed "how bout Fergs at nest home stand..SuperCyberMan?"

by Top Gun Numba 1 on May 5, 2011 10:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

Problems:

1) Awful Deus Ex Machina at the end. I can buy it a bit in the Boyd/Dickie portion, but the entire federal government swarming in at just the right moment is lazy fucking writing.

2) The two “cliff hangers” are incredibly uncomplelling to me. The worst two characters on the show are the focus.

3) Literally none of the main issues of the series are dealt with in a reasonable manner.

The caller said the boy, after removing the bulb from its socket, left the building and threw the bulb on the ground. When the bulb broke, the caller said the boy screamed "how bout Fergs at nest home stand..SuperCyberMan?"

by Top Gun Numba 1 on May 5, 2011 10:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

Timing was Deus Ex Machina

The caller said the boy, after removing the bulb from its socket, left the building and threw the bulb on the ground. When the bulb broke, the caller said the boy screamed "how bout Fergs at nest home stand..SuperCyberMan?"

by Top Gun Numba 1 on May 5, 2011 10:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

yes, but they were connected plot points.

Mags going out with the poison was okay, but I hate giving her some final words.

@ptSuttery

by Suttree on May 5, 2011 10:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

"Connected" in the sense that they crammed in 2 minutes of winona whining

The caller said the boy, after removing the bulb from its socket, left the building and threw the bulb on the ground. When the bulb broke, the caller said the boy screamed "how bout Fergs at nest home stand..SuperCyberMan?"

by Top Gun Numba 1 on May 5, 2011 10:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

Basically.

Doyle — secretly super evil? Or did he just think Raylan was bluffing about Loretta having a gun?

@ptSuttery

by Suttree on May 5, 2011 10:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

Answer: Not a fleshed out character

The caller said the boy, after removing the bulb from its socket, left the building and threw the bulb on the ground. When the bulb broke, the caller said the boy screamed "how bout Fergs at nest home stand..SuperCyberMan?"

by Top Gun Numba 1 on May 5, 2011 10:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

His motivations are murky at best

The caller said the boy, after removing the bulb from its socket, left the building and threw the bulb on the ground. When the bulb broke, the caller said the boy screamed "how bout Fergs at nest home stand..SuperCyberMan?"

by Top Gun Numba 1 on May 5, 2011 10:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

Fair enough

The caller said the boy, after removing the bulb from its socket, left the building and threw the bulb on the ground. When the bulb broke, the caller said the boy screamed "how bout Fergs at nest home stand..SuperCyberMan?"

by Top Gun Numba 1 on May 5, 2011 11:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

The main reason I like the series is that it really keeps with the voice of Elmore Leonard, who is obviously a better writter than any tv show writer.

This episode is about as far away from that sensibility as it’s been all season

The caller said the boy, after removing the bulb from its socket, left the building and threw the bulb on the ground. When the bulb broke, the caller said the boy screamed "how bout Fergs at nest home stand..SuperCyberMan?"

by Top Gun Numba 1 on May 5, 2011 10:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

I haven't seen the episode, but a wild-west type show starring Timothy Olyphant turning in a weaksauce sophmoric effort?

All that’s left for them to accomplish is a ‘very special’ episode starring Ian McShane, then they can start working on the syndication rights.

Proof Matthan admitted he was wrong: http://www.draysbay.com/2011/3/18/2058018/ottotd-for-3-18-2011-thursday-night-t-v#61697767

by kericr on May 5, 2011 10:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

You're dumb as shit if you didn't think the second season of Deadwood was better than the first

The caller said the boy, after removing the bulb from its socket, left the building and threw the bulb on the ground. When the bulb broke, the caller said the boy screamed "how bout Fergs at nest home stand..SuperCyberMan?"

by Top Gun Numba 1 on May 5, 2011 10:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

I didn't finish the second season; I thought it was boring.

That’s not an actual testament to the quality of the show; I just wanted you to fly off the handled and call me stupid.

Proof Matthan admitted he was wrong: http://www.draysbay.com/2011/3/18/2058018/ottotd-for-3-18-2011-thursday-night-t-v#61697767

by kericr on May 5, 2011 10:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

"handled"

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by kericr on May 5, 2011 10:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

welp

The caller said the boy, after removing the bulb from its socket, left the building and threw the bulb on the ground. When the bulb broke, the caller said the boy screamed "how bout Fergs at nest home stand..SuperCyberMan?"

by Top Gun Numba 1 on May 5, 2011 10:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

Just got done watching it.

Agree. It was a great season and it kinda felt like they didn’t put much thought into tying it up. I don’t think Boyd would give up Dickie easy like that either. Agree with you about Arlo as well. I hope Ava dies, cuz she was getting on my nerves this year.

By the way, how great is that Brad Paisley song they played at the end of the episode. Those couple of lines give me chills every time I hear them. That should be the theme song of the show instead of the one they went with.

"Few things are harder to put up with than the annoyance of a good example." ~ Mark Twain

by LeeCaz on May 5, 2011 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

works over here

@SandyKazmir Die or Ride, You Decide

by Sandy Kazmir on May 5, 2011 10:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

Sandy's not a great poster, but we keep him around because he's terminal, and this was his Make-A-Wish

The caller said the boy, after removing the bulb from its socket, left the building and threw the bulb on the ground. When the bulb broke, the caller said the boy screamed "how bout Fergs at nest home stand..SuperCyberMan?"

by Top Gun Numba 1 on May 5, 2011 10:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

Sure you are Sandy, you're the best! (he's probably only got 5 or 6 months max, just play along)

The caller said the boy, after removing the bulb from its socket, left the building and threw the bulb on the ground. When the bulb broke, the caller said the boy screamed "how bout Fergs at nest home stand..SuperCyberMan?"

by Top Gun Numba 1 on May 5, 2011 10:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

c u l8r

The caller said the boy, after removing the bulb from its socket, left the building and threw the bulb on the ground. When the bulb broke, the caller said the boy screamed "how bout Fergs at nest home stand..SuperCyberMan?"

by Top Gun Numba 1 on May 5, 2011 10:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

The reason Joe pinch hit Danjo
He has lost confidence in Reid. The inability to lay down a bunt will be Reid’s downfall with Joe. Reid’s previous at bat when he flailed at a bunt attempt showed his lack of skill.Joe will not put up with that from the bottom of the order.

by Landlord on May 5, 2011 10:30 AM EDT reply actions

@SandyKazmir Die or Ride, You Decide

by Sandy Kazmir on May 5, 2011 10:37 AM EDT reply actions  

The best part of that is how he talks about the players like he's on familiar terms with them. This is bolstering my Unknown Insider hypothesis

The caller said the boy, after removing the bulb from its socket, left the building and threw the bulb on the ground. When the bulb broke, the caller said the boy screamed "how bout Fergs at nest home stand..SuperCyberMan?"

by Top Gun Numba 1 on May 5, 2011 10:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

"I'll rec dumb shit all day" - TGN1 (1969-2012)

The caller said the boy, after removing the bulb from its socket, left the building and threw the bulb on the ground. When the bulb broke, the caller said the boy screamed "how bout Fergs at nest home stand..SuperCyberMan?"

by Top Gun Numba 1 on May 5, 2011 10:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

The rays practiced fielding ground balls today!

As you can always expect come from behind victory is when you least expect it.

by Buc Wild on May 5, 2011 6:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

W. VA doesn't count

@SandyKazmir Die or Ride, You Decide

by Sandy Kazmir on May 5, 2011 10:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

We all know that people don't get high on 'bath salts'.

Proof Matthan admitted he was wrong: http://www.draysbay.com/2011/3/18/2058018/ottotd-for-3-18-2011-thursday-night-t-v#61697767

by kericr on May 5, 2011 10:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

It's happening a lot these days. Kids call it Washin' as in "Hey bro, you washin'?"

The caller said the boy, after removing the bulb from its socket, left the building and threw the bulb on the ground. When the bulb broke, the caller said the boy screamed "how bout Fergs at nest home stand..SuperCyberMan?"

by Top Gun Numba 1 on May 5, 2011 10:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

Cross-dresser kills goat while high on bath salts

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/05/04/goat_death/

Proof Matthan admitted he was wrong: http://www.draysbay.com/2011/3/18/2058018/ottotd-for-3-18-2011-thursday-night-t-v#61697767

by kericr on May 5, 2011 10:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

Uh, are you legit retarded, or?

The caller said the boy, after removing the bulb from its socket, left the building and threw the bulb on the ground. When the bulb broke, the caller said the boy screamed "how bout Fergs at nest home stand..SuperCyberMan?"

by Top Gun Numba 1 on May 5, 2011 10:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

This is me. I am legit retarded.

Proof Matthan admitted he was wrong: http://www.draysbay.com/2011/3/18/2058018/ottotd-for-3-18-2011-thursday-night-t-v#61697767

by kericr on May 5, 2011 10:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

BIUN

The caller said the boy, after removing the bulb from its socket, left the building and threw the bulb on the ground. When the bulb broke, the caller said the boy screamed "how bout Fergs at nest home stand..SuperCyberMan?"

by Top Gun Numba 1 on May 5, 2011 10:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

You've got a fan
I agree with
Suttree and Tommy.
Imo the only thing worse than umpiring with a grudge,is taking bribes.

by Landlord on May 5, 2011 10:54 AM EDT up reply Unrec? Delete Hi

@SandyKazmir Die or Ride, You Decide

by Sandy Kazmir on May 5, 2011 11:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

Unrec? Delete Hi

The caller said the boy, after removing the bulb from its socket, left the building and threw the bulb on the ground. When the bulb broke, the caller said the boy screamed "how bout Fergs at nest home stand..SuperCyberMan?"

by Top Gun Numba 1 on May 5, 2011 11:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm not sure how I feel about this.

On one hand, I’m a weak-minded monkey with low self esteem.

On the other hand, I fucking hate mouth breathers.

@ptSuttery

by Suttree on May 5, 2011 11:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

Suck my dick, bitch
@SandyKazmir Die or Ride, You Decide
by Sandy Kazmir on May 5, 2011 10:06 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs

The caller said the boy, after removing the bulb from its socket, left the building and threw the bulb on the ground. When the bulb broke, the caller said the boy screamed "how bout Fergs at nest home stand..SuperCyberMan?"

by Top Gun Numba 1 on May 5, 2011 11:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

Hate your own kind?

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by DeadeyeRR on May 5, 2011 11:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

mouth breathers?

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by DeadeyeRR on May 5, 2011 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

I thought you were no longer fat?

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by DeadeyeRR on May 5, 2011 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

So we've gotten to the point in OTTOTDs where there are literally no opinions on anything

The caller said the boy, after removing the bulb from its socket, left the building and threw the bulb on the ground. When the bulb broke, the caller said the boy screamed "how bout Fergs at nest home stand..SuperCyberMan?"

by Top Gun Numba 1 on May 5, 2011 11:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

How the hell do I find yesterday's GDT?

Proof Matthan admitted he was wrong: http://www.draysbay.com/2011/3/18/2058018/ottotd-for-3-18-2011-thursday-night-t-v#61697767

by kericr on May 5, 2011 11:09 AM EDT reply actions  

NM, I got it. I had to go back to my posting history.

Proof Matthan admitted he was wrong: http://www.draysbay.com/2011/3/18/2058018/ottotd-for-3-18-2011-thursday-night-t-v#61697767

by kericr on May 5, 2011 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

I will definately help him out

/every question will user the tired, worn out joke by including English degree and tact

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by DeadeyeRR on May 5, 2011 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

*user

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by DeadeyeRR on May 5, 2011 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

Will James Joyce Jr. work as well?

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by DeadeyeRR on May 5, 2011 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

Leopold Bloom III

@SandyKazmir Die or Ride, You Decide

by Sandy Kazmir on May 5, 2011 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

wtbudlight,

Tell OBF that the deal with Sam Fuld is off, so he can get that car for Lamont.

Ryan Gilliss

Boom. Outta Here.

@RyanGilliss

by Ryan Gilliss on May 5, 2011 11:43 AM EDT reply actions  

Damn! Will do

Do you realize Betty White is a milf for me? Ouch

follow me on twitter @sternfan10

by sternfan1 on Sep 3, 2010 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs

by wtbudlight on May 5, 2011 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm being very helpful to Woodrum in his chat, yet he never uses my questions. How odd.

The caller said the boy, after removing the bulb from its socket, left the building and threw the bulb on the ground. When the bulb broke, the caller said the boy screamed "how bout Fergs at nest home stand..SuperCyberMan?"

by Top Gun Numba 1 on May 5, 2011 1:13 PM EDT reply actions  

I "liked" your submission btw.

Sign lady must die.
Follow me on Twitter @Josh_Frank

by EminenceFront on May 5, 2011 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

He answered one of mine.

That might be the worst chat I ever saw. he only answered like 15 questions.

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by DeadeyeRR on May 5, 2011 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

wondeful

As you can always expect come from behind victory is when you least expect it.

by Buc Wild on May 6, 2011 6:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sandy, you still postin at Bucschat?

I was a way for a while, hopped back into the politics section, then got out again. don’t see the point. I like football but there’s not enough goin on in the forum. I do think i’ve read everything Talbuc’s ever posted though. Even if he’s wrong, he sounds so right.

by behn on May 5, 2011 1:36 PM EDT reply actions  

Here and there, mostly trying to provide a balance to the general retardism that is the Rays forum

Don’t care much about football unless it’s 1:00 on a Sunday these days

@SandyKazmir Die or Ride, You Decide

by Sandy Kazmir on May 5, 2011 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

hear that

1990’s hornet guys is a rey-tard. politics has gone from de facto racism to overt racism. there’s not even a point in calling it out even more.

by behn on May 5, 2011 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Got a link?

I need to hook up with the brotherhood.

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by DeadeyeRR on May 5, 2011 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Will someone explain to me why in the new DRB logo the Skyway is connecting UT to Downtown Tampa? Because those are 3 things not in St Pete, which is where the Rays play

The caller said the boy, after removing the bulb from its socket, left the building and threw the bulb on the ground. When the bulb broke, the caller said the boy screamed "how bout Fergs at nest home stand..SuperCyberMan?"

by Top Gun Numba 1 on May 5, 2011 5:18 PM EDT reply actions  

Tampa bias

love it love it love it
i hate one person more than Pap smear—his name is bin laden
by sternfan1 on Aug 12, 2010 3:33 PM EDT

by SRQman on May 5, 2011 5:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't really understand that

The caller said the boy, after removing the bulb from its socket, left the building and threw the bulb on the ground. When the bulb broke, the caller said the boy screamed "how bout Fergs at nest home stand..SuperCyberMan?"

by Top Gun Numba 1 on May 5, 2011 5:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Why not Minny? I get DC because all the gummint don't want to vote for him, but Minny?

The caller said the boy, after removing the bulb from its socket, left the building and threw the bulb on the ground. When the bulb broke, the caller said the boy screamed "how bout Fergs at nest home stand..SuperCyberMan?"

by Top Gun Numba 1 on May 5, 2011 5:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

it's reagan's map from 84?

which is best possible outcome for any republican ever

www.dhazebay.com

by putupyourDUKES on May 5, 2011 5:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh god, that shit better be on youtube 2 seconds after it happens

The caller said the boy, after removing the bulb from its socket, left the building and threw the bulb on the ground. When the bulb broke, the caller said the boy screamed "how bout Fergs at nest home stand..SuperCyberMan?"

by Top Gun Numba 1 on May 5, 2011 5:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh I get it, you're exposing the horrors of war via a medium that glorified war to children. How clever

The caller said the boy, after removing the bulb from its socket, left the building and threw the bulb on the ground. When the bulb broke, the caller said the boy screamed "how bout Fergs at nest home stand..SuperCyberMan?"

by Top Gun Numba 1 on May 5, 2011 5:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

I got Hosmer, ya'll brunt

z

The caller said the boy, after removing the bulb from its socket, left the building and threw the bulb on the ground. When the bulb broke, the caller said the boy screamed "how bout Fergs at nest home stand..SuperCyberMan?"

by Top Gun Numba 1 on May 5, 2011 5:57 PM EDT reply actions  

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