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Around SBN: Win or Lose, Boston Celtics' New Big 3 Era A Success

It's already been mentioned in the threads, but a sprained left knee will end catcher Jose Lobaton's roster time and bring on the glorious new era of Robinson Chirinos.

Cheerios will likely play the Jaso game even though he's a righty, but may earn some more playing time if he starts mashing. In July, he had 4 homers and a .441 wOBA through 43 Pas.

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Cheerios!

A-rod's salary? 30 Million, Evan Longoria's? 1M, god i love life as a rays fan

by RaysOfHope on Jul 18, 2011 1:15 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Is the 420 calories per serving shopped or real?

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by Doug09 on Jul 18, 2011 5:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

needs to have 69 vits and minerals

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by 4QB on Jul 18, 2011 5:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hope you enjoyed your stay, Lobaton!

Oh how nice it would be to see you and Chirinos split time and cut Shop already….

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by joeybw on Jul 18, 2011 2:41 PM EDT reply actions  

I'd rather see an equipment bag

propped up behind the plate than Shoppach. At least I wouldn’t expect the bag to be much help. And the bag probably can block home plate better than Shoppach.

Well, hopefully Cheerio can show us more of how the Rays swindled the Cubs. Doesn’t seem the Bartlet trade has been as big a coup, but that’s probably magnified by Brignac’s struggles…

by tampa_edski on Jul 18, 2011 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bartlett sucks and Gomes is awesome

We’ll see what Ramos and Russell become but I love me some Gomes.

Chirinos should start tonight, Cobb is used to him.

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by joeybw on Jul 18, 2011 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ramos is alright

I dont like russell, but 1 pretty good reliever in gomes and a decent one in ramos for a crappy ss? thats called being friedman’d

A-rod's salary? 30 Million, Evan Longoria's? 1M, god i love life as a rays fan

by RaysOfHope on Jul 18, 2011 3:16 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Gomes from SD?

Forgot that. And Ramos…OK, so better than I was thinking.

And for as bad as Bartlett supposedly is, wouldn’t his average production eclipse what we have now?

by tampa_edski on Jul 18, 2011 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

not worth 5.5 mil, however

and marginal offensive upgrade wouldn’t be worth the defensive downgrade. 0.8 WAR for Barty so far, -0.7 for Brignac. 1.5 WAR differential between the 2. Neither one is the answer at SS.

by raysfaninminnesota on Jul 18, 2011 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Excited to see Chirinos

This was the guy the Rays coveted in the Garza deal. Coveted to the point that Texas, in trying to swing a trade for Garza as well, tried to work out a separate deal to get Chirinos so they could use him in a trade for Garza.

by raysfaninminnesota on Jul 18, 2011 3:48 PM EDT reply actions  

Dudes! Russell DFA, Cruz DL

Cobb and Torres up! Gomes stays!

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by joeybw on Jul 18, 2011 3:52 PM EDT reply actions  

on that not i think Brandon Gomes earned a permanent stay on the Big League roster.

how could anyone send the kid down after a very gutsy performance last night

by Peter Piontek on Jul 18, 2011 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

He was pretty fucking awesome...

You could tell he was getting tired (and rightfully so) but he pushed through… That was more then enough reason for me to like the guy

by TheBeckMan23 on Jul 18, 2011 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Stilts or not, no way Gomes isn't one of the best 6 relievers in the system.

he belongs here with or without last night but i think he convinced Joe Maddon that he belongs with the big club

by Peter Piontek on Jul 18, 2011 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not because of last night

but just as the latest example. Still very much SSS, but not faring well against lefties. If he can get both out, and I’m too lazy to check his minor league splits, he’s shown he can go multiple innings, and has good peripherals. At worst he’s a solid middle reliever for cheap.

by raysfaninminnesota on Jul 18, 2011 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

.

LF Jennings
2B Zobrist
3B Longoria
DH Joyce
1B Kotchman
CF Upton
RF Guyer
C Chirinos
SS Brignac

Oh, wait.

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by Imperialism32 on Jul 18, 2011 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

I wonder if Torres was ever being considered as the SP tonight

or if they planned him to replace Russell the whole time.

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by joeybw on Jul 18, 2011 4:03 PM EDT reply actions  

i hope they plan to keep him in the pen

i envision a dominant lefty 1 inning at a time.

by Peter Piontek on Jul 18, 2011 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think he was coming up anyway

Given his shortened start last time with Durham.

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by Imperialism32 on Jul 18, 2011 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm intrigued by Torres in the BP for rest of season

or it’s at least nice picking between Gomes/Torres and not Gomes/Russell

by raysfaninminnesota on Jul 18, 2011 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

this would be the best news of all

could care less about Cobb, Torres, Chirinos, Lobaton, McGee, Gomes, and every other move combined, than to see this beast within one level of the bigs.

by raysfaninminnesota on Jul 18, 2011 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

He pitched yesterday

For some unknown reason he had a week off so in one like 10 day stretch he threw 1 inning which was just stupid.

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by Imperialism32 on Jul 18, 2011 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Where? How?

Cobb going back down for Davis
Torres seems to be up as a tandem thing here tonight and will go back down for a bat.

None of the others down there should block a promotion but Moore isn’t tied to these 2

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by Jason Collette on Jul 18, 2011 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Durham lost 3/5 of the rotation this week.

Baker, Torah, Sonny and who knows what

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by FreeZorilla on Jul 18, 2011 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

No doubt on that one

Everyone pitched last night, some of them didn’t go long but let’s just hope Cobb goes long.

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by joeybw on Jul 18, 2011 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

THIS

bullpen is dead. Bringing up 2 starters hoping between the two of them they can cover 7 innings at least.

by raysfaninminnesota on Jul 18, 2011 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

This is an exciting move.

I’m ready for some of our young guys to help.

by sc_monsta1015 on Jul 18, 2011 4:16 PM EDT reply actions  

how can you not be pissed if you are Jennings/Guyer tho

half the damn Durham team is getting called up. Even Guyer has gotten a couple whiffs of the majors…but Jennings? He’s getting Jew’d Friedman’d

by raysfaninminnesota on Jul 18, 2011 4:17 PM EDT reply actions  

Is this on Sun Sports or do we have to watch ESPN again?

I wanna see all the call ups but ugh, ESPN again?

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by joeybw on Jul 18, 2011 4:21 PM EDT reply actions  

I was just giving you the pre-game

then it’ll be…New York Yankees…slurp, slurp, slurp…Derek Jeter…slurp, slurp, slurp…3,000 hits…slurp, slurp, slurp…

Having Sux and Stankees on back-to-back days will give the ESPN baseball crew a new nickname: Deep Throat.

by raysfaninminnesota on Jul 18, 2011 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

As Ruggiano starts

I don’t know how serious this Joyce injury is but once again, call up Jennings already, wow.

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by joeybw on Jul 18, 2011 4:34 PM EDT reply actions  

Nope he will PH again

So they can take him right out and bring in “the legend”

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by joeybw on Jul 18, 2011 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Perhaps joyce is dl bound soon as well

When he is healthy I want jennings, joyces injury is probably the only thing keeping ruggiano on the roster

A-rod's salary? 30 Million, Evan Longoria's? 1M, god i love life as a rays fan

by RaysOfHope on Jul 18, 2011 4:40 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Peace out russell

Hello torres, im very excited he is getting a promotion, perhaps to increase his trade value. Moore to AAA damnit!

A-rod's salary? 30 Million, Evan Longoria's? 1M, god i love life as a rays fan

by RaysOfHope on Jul 18, 2011 4:38 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Would think he's here until at least Cruz is back

I don’t see them putting Cobb in the pen when Wade returns. Unless of course Torres bombs.

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by joeybw on Jul 18, 2011 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

I dont see torres bombing

I see him as a shut down reliever

A-rod's salary? 30 Million, Evan Longoria's? 1M, god i love life as a rays fan

by RaysOfHope on Jul 18, 2011 4:42 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Not sure this is the lineup to increase his trade value against.

The walkathon likely will continue

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by FreeZorilla on Jul 18, 2011 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Boom

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by Sandy Kazmir on Jul 19, 2011 8:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

Suggestion for the Rays

Demote Reid to AAA to work on his swing, bring Jennings up, think about it, guys.

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by joeybw on Jul 18, 2011 4:49 PM EDT reply actions  

QUICK, SEND THIS TO FRIEDMAN!

I focus on money my hands touch
If that right there don’t add up
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You don’t get caught with an ounce of paper
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by 4QB on Jul 18, 2011 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's blasphemy

I can’t send it to him

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by joeybw on Jul 18, 2011 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Actually, I am

I watched that whole stupid game last night and got up early

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by joeybw on Jul 18, 2011 5:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

You win a cookie

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by FreeZorilla on Jul 18, 2011 5:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

So appearently, during the marathon, Cobb was warming up

Shame he wasn’t active, says he always throws around 30 pitches before the start, ESPN couldn’t actually show him of course, he’s on the wrong team.

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by joeybw on Jul 18, 2011 4:54 PM EDT reply actions  

I don't recall seeing him

Hellickson did go down there and throw the ball around.

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by SRQman on Jul 18, 2011 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

So the centerpiece of the Jason Bartlett deal has been DFAd

Well done Andrew Friedman

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by sternfan1 on Jul 18, 2011 4:58 PM EDT reply actions  

Well, we did get Gomes

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You don’t get caught with an ounce of paper
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by 4QB on Jul 18, 2011 5:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

doesn't matter the "label"

just the results. Gomes looks like a keeper. Ramos is still undecided. Even 1 player working out makes it a decent deal for a guy who was not going to be kept by this team.

by raysfaninminnesota on Jul 18, 2011 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes

I focus on money my hands touch
If that right there don’t add up
I gotta let you know your math sucks
You don’t ever talk to a calculator
You don’t get caught with an ounce of paper
Every convo is about a favour

by 4QB on Jul 18, 2011 5:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes

Cobb is prob used to him and Shop wound up catching 9 innings

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by joeybw on Jul 18, 2011 5:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Once Guyer is called up and Jennings dies again, there's no reason to follow Durham anymore

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by Jonah Keri on Jun 19, 2010 10:31 PM EDT

by Doug09 on Jul 18, 2011 5:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

DANJO

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by FreeZorilla on Jul 18, 2011 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

I bet he is up in september along with flip

A-rod's salary? 30 Million, Evan Longoria's? 1M, god i love life as a rays fan

by RaysOfHope on Jul 18, 2011 5:15 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I bet we will have more before september

Helliot probably wont make it too much longer. Same with shoppachOi

A-rod's salary? 30 Million, Evan Longoria's? 1M, god i love life as a rays fan

by RaysOfHope on Jul 18, 2011 5:51 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

The key part of all these roster moves is that right now the Rays 40 man roster stands at 38.

An important number allowing them to acquire at least two players via trade without having to drop anyone else off the 40. That flexibility makes trading(adding and subtracting) much less complicated.

by budman3 on Jul 18, 2011 5:27 PM EDT reply actions  

reports also have Nationals willing to move Storen

Would a Storen/Desmond, or Storen/Norris, or Storen/Cole deal be enough for Upton?

by raysfaninminnesota on Jul 18, 2011 5:53 PM EDT reply actions  

I can't see the Nats moving a 23 year old closer of their future.

And Desmond is not much of an upgrade over what the Rays have for their future SS already in their system. AF should be looking to fill needs that are missing if he moves Upton…catcher and 1st base(and are ML ready. I still ask for either Norris or Ramos AND Marrero or Morse. Rays would need to add an arm in the deal…Torres and Cobb being called up may be a good showcase for the Nats.

by budman3 on Jul 18, 2011 6:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nats high on Upton

the report is they are willing to listen to all relievers. I’m sure they’d prefer to move Clippard. But if they can get the CF they are targeting, they’d be willing to move Storen. IF they are, I can see Rays targeting him. Desmond seems just like Brignac, so doesn’t really make sense there. But a Storen/Cole or Storen/Norris if Rays are convinced on his long-term potential would both be great deals.

by raysfaninminnesota on Jul 18, 2011 6:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Upton and torres for norris,marrero and storen

I would do this deal

A-rod's salary? 30 Million, Evan Longoria's? 1M, god i love life as a rays fan

by RaysOfHope on Jul 18, 2011 6:08 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

that's why the second piece has to be really good

rays get 3 seasons of Storen (trade him by arb3), and either 5-6 seasons of Norris or Cole. If we can get them to snort some crack, maybe we can find a way to pry Espinosa in a bigger deal. Niemann, Upton, Torres for Espinosa, and Storen?

by raysfaninminnesota on Jul 18, 2011 6:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Im pretty sure they wouldnt do that

Niether would the rays. Espinosa is good but not enough

A-rod's salary? 30 Million, Evan Longoria's? 1M, god i love life as a rays fan

by RaysOfHope on Jul 18, 2011 6:14 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

If we could get 5 good years out of storen I would be happy

A-rod's salary? 30 Million, Evan Longoria's? 1M, god i love life as a rays fan

by RaysOfHope on Jul 18, 2011 6:12 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Norris has a 3 year decline in OPS

and his BA is really, really low. Like Carlos Pena low. He walks well. Has definite power. But will that hole in his swing keep him from being able to hit up to his potential? He scares me.

If we could pry away Cole, along with Storen, I’d call it a coup. Rays could then slide Farnsworth into set-up role for next year, or trade him while his value is high.

by raysfaninminnesota on Jul 18, 2011 5:59 PM EDT reply actions  

Norris is only 22 and is a very good defensive catcher.

His BA is low but he does have power, makes contact, and has a great eye(KO’s going down/BB’s going up leading to a great OBP). Should improve his overall hitting moving forward.

by budman3 on Jul 18, 2011 6:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Norris is much better than the year he is having

A-rod's salary? 30 Million, Evan Longoria's? 1M, god i love life as a rays fan

by RaysOfHope on Jul 18, 2011 6:10 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

His AA BABIP is .218

but yikes it’s ugly to see a player struggle in the jump to the high minors. Still, it’d probably make it easier to acquire him

by benderbrodriguez on Jul 18, 2011 6:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

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