Who is Oscar Hernandez?
There has been some buzz around the interweb and the comments here on DRaysBay about who Oscar Hernandez is and why he is putting up historic statistics in the Venezuelan Summer League. Apparently no one can confidently answer that question.
You will not find a report on Baseball America. You will not find one on Minor League Ball. And you definitely will not find one on the 4-letter. Try doing a google search and see if you can find one. Apparently one does not exist. So, can we decipher anything from his lofty stats? I doubt it, but I am going to try anyways.
The Good:
Hernandez just turned 18 on July 9th and the league average age for the VSL is 18.4 years. Hernandez currently (as of 7/21) sits atop the VSL in all triple-slash categories with a .416/.513/.784 line. The league average hitter is only hitting .266/.358/.372.
He has a slugging percentage that is more than double the league average. His 19 homeruns are already a league record. The previous record was 15 by Roan Salas in 2009. Hernandez's homerun total accounts for exactly 1/8 of the entire league's homerun total. The 2nd place hitter has a whopping eight homeruns. Only two of the other five teams have more homeruns than Hernandez does. As a 16-year-old last year, he was not quite as good but still managed to out-slug the league by more than 40 points.
As a player younger than the rest of his league, he also has a decent BB/K rate of 0.78. On the defensive side of the ball, Hernandez has thrown out 42% of attempted base stealers; in 2010, he threw out 52% of attempted runners.
The Bad:
I do not know what the stadiums are like in that league but the Rays affiliate has more than 1/3 of the entire league's homeruns. Even if you take Hernandez's 19 out the Rays affiliate would still lead the league in homeruns. Could they be playing in a hitter's haven? It sure sounds like it. The Rays affiliate has lead the league in homeruns each year since it has had its own team from 2008-2011. The former league record holder played for none other than the Rays affiliate when he set the record at 15 homeruns. He is now with the Blue Jays low-A affiliate in Vancouver and is hitting .250/.282/.412 with 2 homeruns in 68 at-bats as a 21 year old.
Hernandez's OBP has also been helped by six unintentional walks and by being hit by 13 pitches. The league is a pretty wild one with 313 HBP in only 334 total games. By contrast, the Major Leagues have 914 HBP in 2924 games.
On defense he has what looks like a good success rate of throwing runners out but the league average is almost 40% but he is still above-average. But he also has 12 passed balls and 8 errors in only 35 games behind the plate. He has been the DH in the other 17 games.
The league rules state that "No player may have four or more years of prior Minor League Service. Draft-eligible players may not participate in the DSL or VSL, with the exception of two players from Puerto Rico." And age problems are a real concern that arise.
The Conclusion:
From the research I have done I found Hernandez is far and away having a historic season in the VSL. Sadly, though, the best hitting prospects to come through the VSL have been Jose Altuve, Ruben Tejada, Ezequiel Carrera, Luis Durango, and Argenis Reyes. The league only dates back to 2005 and is very young so some of these guys could still have potential careers but the early success rate of this league is not promising.
The bottom line is that while Oscar Hernandez is putting up ridiculous numbers as a young kid in the VSL we still have no idea who he is and if he is a legit prospect. If short history can dictate the future we may just be looking at a kid who can play some good backyard baseball but I hope that is far from the truth.
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Good stuff. I was looking through the leaderboards just yesterday trying to see if there were any decent comps to his performance.
Thanks!
I honestly would love to know the dimensions of the park the Rays play out of. It very well could be a softball field and be 300 to all fields.
I tried RTing your tweets yesterday to try to get some answers.
We just need to keep peppering guys.
Maybe we should take our stopwatches down to Venezuela and start a scouting service (lots of beautiful women there).
He is 35 years old really
If you want to keep guns out of the hands of thugs, just attach job applications to them
Great work.
Kid is a legend before he ever comes stateside. Maybe if we get lucky Mr. Hernandez will be our opening day catcher 2016.
That would be nice but we still have no idea if he is legit.
The evidence to points to him playing on a softball field and the track record is not very good for that league. I hope he is a legit prospect, though.
think it's probably hard to judge the true track record of a 6 year old league of 16-20 yo kids
but you are right. no one has a clue what he is except maybe the teams scouts and thats 100% projection.
by Peter Piontek on Jul 22, 2011 10:26 AM EDT up reply actions
Agreed.
That’s what is so hard about trying to evaluate a player down there. The competition is so raw and we have no idea how the parks are. I wish we could get some scouting reports but I’m sure those are kept secret by the team affiliates.
It's what is great about being a Rays fan.
what other fanbase notices players in relative obscurity, down in south america that might help the team before anyone knows what he looks like.
by Peter Piontek on Jul 22, 2011 10:34 AM EDT up reply actions
I can't wait until he gets arrested for aggravated crimes against nature.
aggravated
Proof Matthan admitted he was wrong: http://www.draysbay.com/2011/3/18/2058018/ottotd-for-3-18-2011-thursday-night-t-v#61697767
What ever happened to Roan Salas?
I think it says a lot about the league when he put up similar numbers and didn’t even get the call to A ball the next year. If a guy can go Steve Nebraska on the league, and still can’t get a promotion it makes you wonder if the whole thing is/isn’t an exercise in futility.
by GomesSweetGomes on Jul 22, 2011 10:52 AM EDT reply actions
He was also 2 years older than Oscar I think
but yes, you’re right
Vroom vroom party starter
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by Imperialism32 on Jul 22, 2011 10:56 AM EDT up reply actions
he is 21 in A ball with Toronto
still pretty young to know he won’t pan out. these kids take more time then any high school kid stateside.
by Peter Piontek on Jul 22, 2011 11:00 AM EDT up reply actions
Low-A at at that.
Weird how he went from 48 walks and 55 strikeouts in VSL to 1 walk and 15 strikeouts in Low-A. SSS, yes, but wow!
Agreed that tis too early
But I don’t think sending him back to t-ball for another year is going to help his development either. Here’s hoping he starts next year in Princeton.
by GomesSweetGomes on Jul 22, 2011 11:07 AM EDT up reply actions
Agreed. Way different game of baseball being played in the VSL.
Anyone know how the contracts work for kids in the VSL? I couldn’t find any contract info on Oscar Hernandez and Roan Salas was with the Rangers from 17-18, Rays from 19-20, and now Jays at 21 after being taken in the Rule-5 draft.
Yankees haved signed marcus thames oh man I wanted him
A-rod's salary? 30 Million, Evan Longoria's? 1M, god i love life as a rays fan
by RaysOfHope on Jul 22, 2011 10:58 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
Agreed
I would have liked to have gotten Thames last offseason, but at this point the only thing he’s doing is auditioning for his next job.
by GomesSweetGomes on Jul 22, 2011 11:13 AM EDT up reply actions
I think jennings is up right after we trade upton
A-rod's salary? 30 Million, Evan Longoria's? 1M, god i love life as a rays fan
by RaysOfHope on Jul 22, 2011 11:16 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Probably
Gotta make sure we don’t stunt the development of Ruggiano/Fuld by giving their PT to Jennings.
by GomesSweetGomes on Jul 22, 2011 11:18 AM EDT up reply actions
I think so too.
I just wonder when that trade will happen. Upton’s value seems to be much different in our FO’s eyes than in other FO’s eyes.
I don't think it's that other FO's don't value Upton the same...
they see all the talent in the world. Tools of an MVP and all 5 of them and that what we see , but what everyone sees is an under performing 26 year old that shows flashes of his true talent but always reverts back to being a project because of a very noisy swing.
by Peter Piontek on Jul 22, 2011 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions
Not much to dislike about Oscar. However i
remember posting on a similar C in here a couple years ago
He went to the GCL and maybe to low A and i never heard of him since. Was either DSL or VSL
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Probably Lucas Nakandakare?
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by Imperialism32 on Jul 22, 2011 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions
The numbers Hernandez is putting up are much better.
But I am not putting any stock in them after seeing the Rays affiliate lead the league every year in HR and the competition is so poor. I still want a scouting report to leak so we can get a better idea if he is legit or just playing softball.
Hector Guevara maybe? RJ fanpost ~2 years ago
BenBadlerTwo more hits for #Rays Hector Guevara in VSL, his 6th multi-hit game in last 7 games. OPS up to .928 w/ only 8 Ks in 99 PAs
Baseball America’s Ben Badler on Twitter
"It was a little weird seeing Ashley running at me with a closed fist. That was a scary look."-Matt Moore
by CubFanRaysaddict on Jul 22, 2011 12:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Nevermind, Alejandro Segovia
2009 Ray’s VSL catcher with a .962 OPS in over 200 PA’s.
"It was a little weird seeing Ashley running at me with a closed fist. That was a scary look."-Matt Moore
by CubFanRaysaddict on Jul 22, 2011 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Hector Guevara is in BG
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by Imperialism32 on Jul 22, 2011 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions
good, i must be missing him when i look there
isn’t Bailey catching there too?
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Neither Bailey nor Guevara have produced this year.
.248/.291/.372 for Guevara
.222/.285/.375 for Bailey
I just believe Bailey has more potential upside.
I think the consistancy at which Hernandez is doing it is pretty incredible
even in a crappy league they would start pitching around him I’d imagine and yet he has managed to sustain his lofty numbers. I also remember back at one point during the year while not naming any names AF was on the radio talking about how that we were putting a lot of effort into building our latin american programs and we were working hard to find kids with talent and we were finally starting to see the fruits of the hard work, no idea if he had ever even heard of Oscar Hernandez but considering the Rays have only had a team down there what 4 years I think it is too soon to throw out any player completely because of a bad track record. I imagine many of the players of the first few years were just whomever signed up first, at this point the scouts down there have been watching younger kids for a few years in high school/middle school and have a better idea about their talents before they sign them. Last I think the only way we can get some kind of report is if someone can get a question into AF or someone in the FO, whether that is getting to a radio host and getting them to ask it or the guys on TV. Our FO is pretty much the only people outside of those in Venezuela who know anything about this kid, I’m sure they have scouting video and reports they just aren’t releasing.
I also agree that they are not releasing the reports.
I also was not throwing him out, I was simply stating that we need to temper our expectations because the stats in that league have not shown for much and the Rays affiliate apparently plays on a softball field. He could be the 2nd coming of Roy Campanella but the stats down in the VSL are not a telling measure of his true talent.
I think we will see a pretty wide variance on where people rank them
I was thinking about doing a pre/post trade deadling prospect list but have been too lazy to put a full one together. I will probably have Hernandez in my top 10 but I won’t be surprised or blame people who don’t have him even in their top 30.
well I figure even stateside guys often don't pan out unless they are top 3 prospects
so I’ll take my chances with a guy who is putting up numbers over a guy who has a scouting report who isn’t putting up numbers.
Fair enough.
The crazy thing is that the Rays’ system is so deep that I find it hard to even put him in the top 10, especially if you include this year’s draft.
Look at the splits to answer the home park question
Home: 27 games 95 AB’s .474/.554/1.063 6 2B/1 3B/ 16 HR
Road: 29 games 105 AB’s .343/.452.486 6 2B/ 0 3B/ 3 HR
Either a smaller field or geographically similar to Albuquerque. The triple at home confuses me if it’s a short field. A corner OF,er must have dove and missed.

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