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The Rays Should Hit Better

Don't leave just yet! The Rays may get even HOTTER this last month and half!

After an uncommon four-game sweep (against the Royals, albeit), we Rays fans have begun thinking playoffs again. Well, one thing that might help them see October: The Rays, as a team, should hit better through the end of the season.

I assume many readers here diligently read pretty much everything I write on the internet, but in case some of you have missed my recent introduction of Should Hit (or ShH) on Fangraphs, I will offer a quick primer.

Basically: A hitter's performance can be adequately predicted using only his walk rate, strikeout rate, homer rate, and BABIP (batting average on balls in play). This is a pretty crazy finding, and led me to discover the Should Hit formula, which allows us to regress or predict a player's performance given a change in one of those four elements (BB%, K%, HR%, and BABIP).

Well, of those elements, only BABIP stays pretty much the same through a player's career -- though it fluctuates the most wildly on a year-to-year basis.

Think of BABIP like a pendulum, always trying to reach the center, but carried by momentum in opposite directions; while the rate statistics stabilize quickly, but can change yearly as players adjust their approach. The rate stats are more like an adjustable diving board, which stops moving quickly, but can stop at a different area.

Anyway, using the Should Hit (Advanced Predictor!), cutely named ShHAP!, we can adjust for BABIP fluctuations and effectively guess how a player will hit the during a regression. (If you'd like a copy of the ShHAP! tool, I've created a Google Doc which any user can copy or download.)

Well, the news is good: The Rays, as a team, should hit 11% better.

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Below, I've created a Tableau document demonstrating each players' difference between their present hitting (in the form of wRC+) and what they should hit given their career BABIPs (minimum 150 plate appearances). It may be a bit hard to decipher at first, but play around with it, and I think it will reveal its secrets to you:

Some notables:

  • Given his peripherals, Evan Longoria should be killing it right now (151 vs. 117 wRC+). That is very hope-bringing. Also: Kelly Shoppach, B.J. Upton, and Sean Rodriguez look poised for helpful late-season surges.
  • I imagine this thread -- like all threads -- will devolve into a Casey Kotchman love/hate-fest, so I'd like to get my thoughts in first: If Kotchman does indeed return to his career BABIP -- and I think he'll at least come close to it -- then he will still be a not-terrible part of the offense.

    A 103 wRC+ is not great, but his defense helps make it much more digestible. Also, his different hitting profile may indeed make him more valuable to the Rays lineup more so than most other teams.
  • Both Ben Zobrist and Matt Joyce are due for regressions as well, but promise to be well above average if and when that happens.
  • Keep in mind: The thicker the line, the more plate appearances. I think both Elliot Johnson and Reid Brignac are better than they've showed this year, but it's still hard to say how much better.
What are your thoughts?

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Damn I need to play more with tableau

love the graphic (and the piece)

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by Jason Collette on Aug 12, 2011 2:04 PM EDT reply actions  

Excellent! I'm glad you liked it!

I was worried the lines would be a bit tough to reach, but I couldn’t make the bar graphs look any better.

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by BWoodrum on Aug 12, 2011 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

I've been trying

to find the time to play with Tableau Public ever since Woody introduced it to me some time ago (in a story here).

Thanks Woody.

by MrNegative1 on Aug 12, 2011 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

No problem!

I’ll say it’s definitely tough to get Tableau to do what you want sometimes, but when it works out, it’s like riding a buttered-up slide into giant spicy Chik-Fil-A sandwich (i.e. awesome).

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by BWoodrum on Aug 12, 2011 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Trying to figure out how park factors play into this

Its built into wRC+, but is it factored into Shaap or all all home run rates looked at equally? In other words is it a park-adjusted true talent evaluator like wRC+ or given the park that he plays in here would is players x true talent.

Also encouraging that Reid should almost be twice as good as he has been. Discouraging that his Shaap is still just 46.

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by FreeZorilla on Aug 12, 2011 2:12 PM EDT reply actions  

ShHAP! does not add any layers of park adjustment, so the HR rates may be a bit skewed.

If you prefer, you can always use their career HR% rather than the season rate. Still, because ShHAP! is only adjusting their present wRC+, it should not introduce too much field bias… Hopefully.

Here’s the formula:

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by BWoodrum on Aug 12, 2011 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

This is really good stuff, Woody. I saw it yesterday and immediately started plugging in the Rays, glad to see you got the same values here

Tell those jokers at Tableau to get a Mac version chop chop. Looking up the values, I find it practically unfathomable that Shoppach has a .315 career BABIP

If you can't say something to someone's face then it's not worthy of being said behind their back.

by Sandy Kazmir on Aug 12, 2011 2:26 PM EDT reply actions  

Yeah, Shop is certainly a weird one. You'd expect a .270 BABIP at best given his hitting style and speed.

Tableau doesn’t work for Macs? Are you still able to play with the embedded documents?

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by BWoodrum on Aug 12, 2011 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hopefully Upton, Longoria and S-Rod will all hit their stride at the same time

I’m kind of tired of having one single Rays player is going to carry the team. This last series has been refreshing offensively.

by mkultra3 on Aug 12, 2011 2:36 PM EDT reply actions  

If Longo turns it on like ShHAP says he can, then we may not even need anyone else to get better.

Also, if Kotchman can maintain that BABIP for just a few more weeks, it wouldn’t hurt either.

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by BWoodrum on Aug 12, 2011 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, all year it's been seemingly Kotch+1

If you can't say something to someone's face then it's not worthy of being said behind their back.

by Sandy Kazmir on Aug 12, 2011 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Interesting to say the least.

Not convinced Kotchman is due for that much regression though.

Cue the Kotchman flame arguments.

by Cory Alexander on Aug 12, 2011 3:39 PM EDT reply actions  

Yeah, that's a matter of opinion, I guess.

The present number is based entirely on his career BABIP, so if he’s truly reinvented his ability to make struck-balls into singles, then his ShHAP! (as seen above) would be inaccurate.

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