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Matt Joyce Rebounds

Matt Joyce got off to a blazing start for the Rays in 2011 hitting .370/.430/.636 (1.066 OPS) with 9 HR and 30 RBI over the first two months of the season. The next two months of the season weren't as kind as he hit .179/.234/.358 (OPS .591) with 6 HR and 19 RBI. The declining numbers were tied to a possible shoulder injury which required a cortisone shot (his second shot since January) and to natural regression after such a hot start to the season. In the midst of the June/July slump Joyce earned the nickname MOM to suggest that his numbers were built up primarily in the month of May. As fans we never really know an injury is affecting a player but based on Joyce's June and July numbers it may be safe to assume that the shoulder injury negatively affected his output. 

Joyce seems to have turned a corner in August as he has hit .278/.381/.426 in 63 plate appearances. Overall, he is hitting .278/.344/.492 with 17 HR and 56 RBI and has a fWAR of 2.6, a wRC+ of 130, a wOBA of .359, and an ISO of .214. His 2011 season compares favorably to many other AL outfielders: his fWAR of 2.6 places him 12th, the wRC+ of 130 places him 8th, the wOBA of .359 places him 10th, and the .214 ISO ranks 10th. The black eye on Matt Joyce will continue to be his inability to play everyday as he struggles against left-handed pitching with a career slash line of .169/.261/.297 (.558 OPS) in 134 plate appearances.

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As the summer has moved on and the Rays have slipped further down in the standings, it seems that Joyce's season is being lost somewhat in the trade rumor discussion involving B.J. Upton and James Shields, the callup and subsequent performance of Desmond Jennings, the discussion concerning why Ben Zobrist isn't discussed as a MVP candidate, the sudden resurgence of the long ball off the bat of Evan Longoria, and who from Durham deserves a September callup.

How good can Matt Joyce be in 2012? Will he see any time at first base? Will Joe Maddon look to garner extra at-bats versus right handed pitching by hitting him in the #2 position against right handed pitching? 

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Matt Joyce's 2011 Season:
Has increased your expectations for Joyce's 2012 season.
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Has tempered your expectations for Joyce's 2012 season.
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spray chart for August

already more hits the other way this month than in the previous two months combined. He’s not hitting the ball as far these days, so there still could be a physical issue involved

spray chart for June & July

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by Jason Collette on Aug 26, 2011 1:12 PM EDT reply actions  

Sorry, i can't share others enthusiasm for a "strict platoon" player, and it is why i've backed off of S-Roddy

I’ll never consider MOM a top hitter as long as it’s only v RHP

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by sternfan1 on Aug 26, 2011 1:46 PM EDT reply actions  

"strict platoon player"

Current Batting Value over Replacement value for Rays hitters:

Zobrist – 49.7
Joyce – 25.2
Longoria – 24.2
Kotchman – 23.3
Jennings – 20.3
Damon – 16.9
Upton – 12.8
Fuld – 7.0
Rodriguez – 6.8

2 things — Zobrist is such a badass (even moreso on the road), and Jennings to be that high, already is a WOW

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by Jason Collette on Aug 26, 2011 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Won't argue this

He’s 4x the “strict platoon” player Roddy is and as FreeZo said, nothing wrong with lefty platoon guys because they’re going to see 85% of the playing time in a strict platoon.

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by Jason Collette on Aug 26, 2011 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well it's more like 70%, but yeah, the trick will be finding a caddy for him

Guyer sounds like that guy on paper, but ideally you want to be able to give him more than 250 PAs. And if Upton’s traded they probably view him as a full timer so they still need to find that Kapler type player

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by Sandy Kazmir on Aug 26, 2011 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'll throw this name out there

Chris Denorfia

.293/.370/.407 vs LHP in 321 PA’s and can play all 3 OF positions at or above league average. Heading into arb2 coming off a season making 0.8 and will turn 32 halfway through the season. Not sure the Padres have the room to keep him around.

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by Jason Collette on Aug 26, 2011 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Him, Blanks, and Frieri for Beej and Niemann

Never happen

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by Sandy Kazmir on Aug 26, 2011 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

If we took Roddy & Joyce and made the the RF platoon this season

They’d have the 5th best VORP behind Bautista, Berkman, Justin Upton, and Pence.

I’m alright with platoons…

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by Jason Collette on Aug 26, 2011 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm so tired of platoon players

C, SS, 2B, RF, LF (till Jennings)—where does it end?

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by sternfan1 on Aug 26, 2011 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Most baseball players are better served in platoon roles

The Rays have flexible enough players to get away with it. Another everyday righty would be nice, that was supposed to be Manny.

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by FreeZorilla on Aug 26, 2011 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

You're going to have a 4th or 5th OF anyway, why not assign them a defined role and give them other playing time as it pops up?

Would you prefer the guy just rides the pine until an injury or PH appearance?

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by Sandy Kazmir on Aug 26, 2011 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

or Astros?

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by sternfan1 on Aug 26, 2011 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's what I'm doing tonight.....

from behind home plate at AT&T Park

#humblebrag

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by Jason Collette on Aug 26, 2011 7:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

134 Plate Appearances

I wonder if he can unlock the secret to hitting against lefties?

We were more than happy to suggest to get Sean Rod in there against righties for an extended period to see if he could at least hit the mistakes, maybe Joyce needs the same extended opportunity in the future?

Or maybe we can supply Joyce with a Kevin Long book HERE

by MrNegative1 on Aug 26, 2011 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's always so funny to hear the clamor from fans that this guy should or that guy should get more exposure, and generally they always fail and you don't hear the fans proclaim these things anymore

It’d be nice if once in a while they admitted they were wrong

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by Sandy Kazmir on Aug 26, 2011 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Amen

Being wrong is what keeps me tuned in to so much of baseball..if I were right all the time, how boring would being a fan be?

by MrNegative1 on Aug 26, 2011 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

"The black eye on Matt Joyce will continue to be his inability to play everyday as he struggles against left-handed pitching with a career slash line of .169/.261/.297 (.558 OPS) in 134 plate appearances."

Geez, Andre Ethier IS awful, isn’t he?

Proof Matthan admitted he was wrong: http://www.draysbay.com/2011/3/18/2058018/ottotd-for-3-18-2011-thursday-night-t-v#61697767

by kericr on Aug 26, 2011 1:49 PM EDT reply actions  

Nice to see the BABIP entering sustainable territory.

SSS, but if August is any sign of the true Matt Joyce then I’m just as excited for his future as I was at the end of May.

Now if only an adjustment to lefties could be made.

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by Top Gun Numba 1 on Jan 17, 2011 4:40 PM EST

by Matt0611 on Aug 26, 2011 1:49 PM EDT reply actions  

Only adjustment he needs to make is to lift a cheek when he needs to fart on the bench with a southpaw on the bump

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by Sandy Kazmir on Aug 26, 2011 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

with a RHP on the mound zobrist at 2nd and joyce in RF

LHP then go with sean at 2nd and zobrist in RF. I believe they will give Guyer the LF job if upton is traded this offseason

by RaysOfHope on Aug 28, 2011 10:38 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

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