Looking Forward: Arizona Fall League Thoughts
Rosters for the Arizona Fall League won't come out until the end of the month, but the minor league season is beginning to wind down and we can look at some candidates. If you're unfamiliar, the AFL is a sort of prospect showcase league that runs in October and November out west. Each team sends six (or more) players to make up six teams. As an added bonus, a few of the parks have pitch-f/x information.
Generally it's not the absolute cream of the crop, though Stephen Strasburg and Bryce Harper made their unofficial pro debuts in Arizona the past two seasons. For the most part it's fringe 40-man who the organization wants to get one more look at this year, or players who missed time with injury. All triple-A and double-A players are eligible, along with one player below double-A. Here's a look at who the Rays have sent the past three seasons:
2008:RHP Chris Mason
RHP Ryan Reid
RHP Wade Townsend
LHP Mike Wlodarczyk
C Matt Spring
1B Rhyne Hughes
OF J.T. Hall
OF Desmond Jennings
2009:
RHP Matt Gorgen
RHP Paul Phillips
RHP Heath Rollins
C Nevin Ashley
IF Cody Cipriano
SS Shawn O'Malley
2010:
RHP Alex Cobb
RHP Jeremy Hall
LHP Sergio Espinosa
LHP Neil Schenk
1B/OF Leslie Anderson
1B Jose Ruiz
3B Henry Wrigley
As you can see, a lot of those players are now out of the organization, but there were also some gems in Cobb and Jennings. So don't expect to see Matt Moore blowing away hitters in the desert, but here are some names to keep in mind:
3B/1B/OF Russ Canzler - After signing as a free agent from the Cubs organization, he's been the Bulls' offensive MVP this season. He's hitting .310/.399/.525 with 32 doubles and 15 home runs. His defense is suspect, though I guess you could call him versatile as he's played at least 15 games at all four corner positions, but it'll probably be a success if he's average at any of them besides 1B. He's an ideal candidate for Arizona to audition for a 40-man roster spot, since he could assuredly land one with another team after wrecking the International League. Once a player has six minor league seasons in he's a free agent after each season (as he was with the Cubs) unless added to the 40-man.
OF Brandon Guyer - I'd call this one unlikely, but possible. Guyer is still nursing an oblique injury, and the AFL has a rule in place about being back from the DL for a certain amount of time to be eligible. The conventional wisdom would have Guyer finishing the season with the big-league club to get a look for next year.
*C Jose Lobaton - He's pretty much in the same boat as Guyer, hitting very well in the International League but coming down with a late-season injury. In addition to the injury, Lobaton had to split catching duties with Robinson Chirinos in Durham, so he's only actually played about 40 games behind the dish. Unfortunately, the Arizona Fall League actually excludes Latin players who resides in countries that participate in the Caribbean Series, which Venezuela does. So Lobaton is ineligible for the AFL but I'd be shocked if he doesn't player winter ball in the Caribbean.
RHP Marquis Fleming - The changeup artist has dominated the Southern League to the tune of 91 strikeouts in 65.2 innings. His fastball is fringe-average and his control can be shaky (32 walks) but a stint in Arizona against advanced hitting would be a good test for him. He's eligible for the rule 5 draft this off-season if the Rays don't add him to the 40-man roster, and a team would probably take a chance on his strikeout rate. The only reason I could see him not going to Arizona is his innings: He's already at 68 innings and should finish with at least 75, which would already be a career high. He'd probably only tack on 10-15 in the AFL, but the Rays may not want him going 90 innings after a previous career high of 72.
RHP Matt Bush - Speaking of dominating the Southern League, Bush has 67 strikeouts in 41.2 innings. They've been very careful with him -- he'd pitched a total of 21 innings entering this year -- so it's probably unlikely they extend his season through November. But selfishly, I'd love to see some pitch-f/x data on him, as Stacy Long reported that he was hitting 96 on the (notoriously slow) Riverwalk gun and pitchers who were charting him said he hit triple digits.
RHP Joseph Cruz - It was originally reported that Cruz would miss the rest of the season with a shoulder injury, but he's come back to make two rehab starts with the GCL Rays and could rejoin the Biscuits. It would be great for Cruz to make up for lost time in Arizona, but the team would have to be completely convinced that his shoulder is 100% to do so. While we're here, teammates Chris Archer and Nick Barnese are also candidates to try to end disappointing seasons on a high note. Archer particularly would be interesting as he was great with Team USA last off-season, though the Rays may not want him to pitch two very long seasons in a row.
OF Kyeong Kang - A decent sleeper prospect with Bowling Green in 2009, Kang's stock fizzled last year with Charlotte and continued to dive with a brutal April for the Biscuits. Since then, though, he's posted OPSes by month of .847, .938, .873, and 1.013 so far in August. He could definitely use the experience, as various minor injuries have prevented him from playing 90 or more games in a season, though he should get there this year with 78 played so far.
Here are some quick hitters on some candidates who could be the below-AA guy (the cut-off date to be in double-A was August 1st):
2B Tyler Bortnick - He's 24 years old with an advanced approach. Very much needs a test against more advanced pitching.
RHP Jake Thompson - Missed some time with injury and his 2.87 ERA masks scary peripherals (40-31 K-BB in over 85 innings). Stuff could tick up in short bursts.
RHP Kirby Yates - Missed almost three full months, but hasn't allowed a run in 18.2 innings for the Stone Crabs. Injuries forced him into the Hot Rods' rotation last year but his numbers are outstanding as a reliever.
LHP C.J. Riefenhauser - Death on left-handed hitters and would probably be in Durham if the Rays were developing him as a LOOGY. Would be nice to see him face advanced LHBs.
SS Derek Dietrich - Because of the middle infield depth, Dietrich has been stuck in the Midwest League all year. Needs to be challenged.
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I'm going out to the AFL for a weekend this November...
Missed it last year and was pissed :(
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Good work.
Would love to see Canzler and Dietrich there the most. I wanna see them against better talent.
Cruz is almost a definite you'd think
Simply to make up the lost innings a la Talbot (you omitted Talbot from 09) and Cobb. I’d love Bortnick go, along with Kang, Beckham, Fleming, and Figueroa
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Unless they want to get his shoulder more rest, yeah
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by Imperialism32 on Aug 9, 2011 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions
I'd like to see Bex too but think Dietrich would benefit more.
Both could use the extra time there for sure.
I imagine we will see a couple MIF go and I will be interested to see if they get work at another position say 3B or OF
Dietrich doesn't profile long term at short so maybe he will.
I never saw Bex as a SS but scouts say he’s turned a corner. Hope so.
Posted it elsewhere, but why not
C.J. Cron, DH, Angels (Short-season Orem)
Cron slugged two more home runs on Friday, but he collapsed on a swing yesterday and was diagnosed with a dislocated knee cap. That’s not an especially troubling injury, but one is forced to wonder why Cron was playing in the first place. The Angels drafted him in the first round knowing that a shoulder surgery was needed, and Cron proved nothing by hitting .308/.371/.629 in 34 games for Orem, as we all knew the guy could mash. So he hit 13 home runs in 143 at-bats, but by delaying the surgery, there’s a greater chance he won’t be ready by spring training. A classic bat-only player who can’t run or field, Cron would be better prepared for his full-season debut by being healthy, not by spending five weeks crushing pitchers at a level he doesn’t belong at.
Derek Dietrich, SS, Rays (Low-A Bowling Green)
The Rays don’t make it especially easy to evaluate their prospects as they remain one of the slower developing teams in baseball. With a 7-for-14 weekend that included his 16th home run of the season, the Rays have a shortstop prospect batting .294/.361/.515 in the Midwest League, but just how good is he? A second-round pick last year out of Georgia Tech, Dietrich has the profile of a player would normally spend his full-season debut at High-A, so he’s advanced for the level offensively, and as far as tools go, he has nowhere close to the range for short and will likely move to third base down the road; some scouts wonder why he’s not there already. He’s a solid prospect, but the position and assignment makes him look better than he is.
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Maybe it was a HR and he's getting the stop sign
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by Imperialism32 on Aug 9, 2011 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions
wasn't* a HR
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by Imperialism32 on Aug 9, 2011 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Kang
If you assume 2010 was just an injury year, that’s basically a Brandon Guyer trajectory that he’s on. Would love to know if that’s real.

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