Monday Morning Rays Wrap Up: The Rays Are Alive and Well
The Rays went 5-1 during this weeks action and finished strong by sweeping the Boston Red Sox to end the week trailing the Red Sox by 3.5 games for the AL Wild Card . The Rays improved to a season high 17 games over .500 at 81-64. The Rays played well against the Rangers in taking 2 out of 3, but the Rays way of playing baseball was in full effect in the weekend series versus the Red Sox.
The Rays looked like a younger, faster, more athletic team who were certain that they were gelling together at the right time. The Red Sox looked lethargic, injured, and lacking fundamentals. In plain English, the Rays looked like they took it to a team that is desperately trying to hold on to their playoff position for 16 more games. In the photo below, does Joe Maddon look overly anxious about September baseball?
Next Weeks Action:
The Rays are in a position that many of us felt was improbable and that is playing meaningful playoff games in September with an eye toward playing in October. Here is where the Rays, Red Sox, and Yankees play this coming week.
The Rays travel to Baltimore next week to face the Orioles for three games before heading to Boston for what is shaping up to be a season defining 4-game series against the Red Sox. The Red Sox return home to Fenway Park for a two game series with the Blue Jays before the Rays come in for the weekend. The Yankees will travel to Seattle for a 3 game series against the Mariners before travelling to Toronto for a weekend series against the Blue Jays.
Game Highlights After the Jump:
Monday: James Shields hurls 11th complete game, Longoria and Upton homer, Rays defeats the Rangers 5-1
This was the second time James Shields faced the Rangers powerful lineup in the span of a week. In going the distance Shields held the Rangers to 1R/1ER on 4 hits while striking out 6 and walking 2. Shields had a shutout entering the ninth inning and was visibly upset after walking Elvis Andrus to begin the inning and after he scored Texas lone run later in the inning. Shields is having a season where he takes the mound and doesn't believe he should give up any runs, that temperament is a quality of an ACE.
James Shields on how he altered his approach facing the Rangers for the second time in a weeks span:
"I think I used my cutter a little more [today]," Shields said. "I had to give them a little different look. They weren't swinging at my changeup too, too much. I mixed pitches up well. I used all four pitches and mixed them up." --mlb.com
Joe Maddon on watching James Shields pitch this year:
"I've not been a part of it anywhere, to see that kind of starting pitching," Maddon said. "Minor Leagues, Major Leagues, anywhere. I've not seen in person. Of course you have to go back and put the video on the '60s to see something like that, probably. ... It's usual, very unusual to see this. It's quite a pleasure to see." --mlb.com
Tuesday: Jeff Niemann get's roughed up and CJ Wilson pitches a shut out as Rangers defeat Rays 8-0.
Jeff Niemann lasted only 4.2 innings, giving up 7R/7ER on 9 hits while striking out 3 and walking 1.
Joe Maddon on Niemann's rough start:
"Everything was flat," Maddon said of Niemann's pitches. "It was up in the zone. He threw three or four fastballs down that were really good. Otherwise, it just wasn't his typical performance." --mlb.com
Wednesday: Rays Desmond Jennings delivers Walk-Off Blast to defeat Rangers 5-4
The victory over the Rangers Wednesday's night gave the Rays their 1000th franchise win. David Price worked the first 6 innings giving up 2R/2ER on 8 hits while striking out 5 and walking 2. The Rangers trailed 4-2 entering the 8th inning but were able to plate 1 run in the 8th off Joel Peralta and Ian Kinsler hit a solo home run off Kyle Farnsworth to tie the score at 4. Desmond Jennings stepped to the plate in the bottom of the tenth mired in a 3-35 slump. Ranger reliever Mark Lowe delivered a four-seam fastball to Jennings who crushed the walk off home run to left field giving the Rays the 5-4 victory.
Jennings on his walk off home run:
"That was probably the most exciting thing I've done in a while," - mlb.com
Joe Maddon on playing rookies while in a playoff chase:
"Even though we're playing these young guys, that means nothing," Maddon said. "We're not giving up, we're not conceding, we're not just trying to give guys playing time. We believe these guys can play well now, and they're showing it."-- mlb.com
Friday: Wade Davis arm and John Jaso's bat lead the Rays to a 7-2 victory over the Red Sox.
The Rays welcomed the Boston Red Sox to Tropicana Field looking to gain ground in the AL Wild Card race. Wade Davis hurled a gem, pitching a complete game while holding the Red Sox to 2R/2ER on 6 hits while striking out 8 and walking 0. Wade Davis was given a 3-0 lead in the third inning thanks to a 3 run homer off the bat of John Jaso.
Wade Davis on using a cutter for the first time against the Red Sox:
"It's actually the first time I've ever really started throwing a cutter," Davis said. "I've always thrown a slider, and we just straightened it out and flattened it out a little to stay in the strike zone more. It ended up being pretty effective." - mlb.com
John Jaso on Davis' cutter:
"I think that cutter's a great pitch -- especially against a team like that. It keeps people honest and it doesn't allow them to start leaning and looking out over the plate. And it was great to do it, to have that kind of confidence."
"It was pretty gutsy," said catcher John Jaso about Davis' decision to use the pitch for the first time against a lineup like Boston's. "He's been working on it and stuff. With their lineup, a lot of guys in their lineup can do some damage to you.- mlb.com
Terry Francona on Davis' cutter:
"He's got that plane on the ball because he's tall and throws it downhill," Francona said. "He threw it outside, inside and just ate us up."- mlb.com
Wade Davis Post-Game:
Saturday: Rays get walk-off single by Longoria to defeat Red Sox 6-5
Jeremy Hellickson gave the Rays 6 innings and Casey Kotchman gave the Rays a 4-3 lead with a home run. The Rays extended the lead to 5-3 on a sacrifice fly by Evan Longoria in the bottom of the sixth. The Rays bullpen held the 5-3 lead until the ninth inning. Kyle Farnsworth blew his second consecutive save by giving up solo home runs to Jarrod Saltalamacchia and Jacoby Ellsbury. After giving up a double to Dustin Pedroia and a walk to Adrain Gonzalez, Joe Maddon went to bring Cesar Ramos in to face David Ortiz.
The move may indicate that the elbow soreness which has been bothering Farnsworth may be worse than thought as Oritz is 0-10 with 6 K's lifetime versus Farnsworth. Cesar Ramos induced the ground ball double play to get out of the inning. The game entered the bottom of the 11th and Desmond Jennings sent a fly ball to right centerfield where Jacoby Ellsbury and Darnell MacDonald misplayed it. Jennings took advantage of the miscue and hustled the play into a triple. Daniel Bard was able to get B.J. Upton to ground out to first for the first out, but was not so lucky against Evan Longoria who lined a single up the middle to give the Rays the 6-5 victory. The victory moved the Rays to within 4.5 games of the Red Sox (4 back in the loss column) for the AL Wild Card.
Evan Longoria on the victory:
"When we got out of the [ninth] inning, all of us had a pretty good sense at some point we'd be able to win that game," said Longoria, who has five career walk-off hits, including two this season. "There was a lot going on there because I didn't know if they'd walk the next two guys. [Daniel] Bard is a tough pitcher, so it becomes a battle in your own mind. I was just trying to put the bat on the ball. When he got me to two strikes, I didn't want him to blow me away with a fastball. The pitch was probably a ball up, and I was just swinging to put the ball in play." -mlb.com
Evan Longoria Post-Game:
A Sign in the Crowd: Thanks to Mike Weber for the Tweet Pic
Sunday: James Shields effort and B.J. Upton Grand Slam lead Rays to sweep over the Red Sox.
The Rays jumped on Boston ACE Jon Lester for 3 runs in the bottom of the first inning and forced him to make 43 pitches. Desmond Jennings led off with a single and moved to second on an infield hit by B.J. Upton. Evan Longoria walked to load the bases and Ben Zobrist delivered a 2-RBI single. Johnny Damon sent a grounder to second, but Ben Zobrist stopped dead in his tracks and forced Pedroia to tag him out which avoided the double play and moved Longoria to 3rd base. Sean Rodriguez brought Longoria home with a sacrifice fly.
The Red Sox cut the lead to 3-1 in the top of the third on a solo home run by Marco Scutaro. The Red Sox preceded to load the bases with 1-out but Shields retired David Ortiz on a soft fly out to left and a Josh Reddick on a pop out to Evan Longoria to end the inning. The Rays answered the Red Sox run in the bottom of the 3rd. Johnny Damon led off with a triple to right centerfield and scored on a double to left field by Sean Rodriguez.
The Rays extended their lead to 8-1 in the sixth when B.J. Upton's connected on a 2-0 pitch for a Grand Slam for his 20th home run of the year. It was Upton's first career Grand Slam and it couldn't of come at a better time.
The game took a rather precarious turn in the bottom of the sixth. The Rays had 2-on with nobody out and Sean Rodriguez laid down a sacrifice bunt. After the runners advance and a trip to the mound by the Red Sox pitching staff, Casey Kotchman was hit by a pitch. Apparently, the Rays had violated an unwritten rule in baseball not to sacrifice bunt with a 7 run lead....or something?
The Rays extended their lead in the 7th when Dustin Pedroia threw away the relay throw on a double play which allowed B.J. Upton to score from second base. James Shields worked into the 9th inning finishing after surrendering a walk to Darnell MacDonald. Shields worked 8.1 innings giving up 1R/1ER on 7 hits while striking out 5 and walking 3. In earning his 15th win against 10 losses Shields moved the Rays to just 3.5 games behind the Red Sox for the wild card and possibly into the discussion for Cy Young.
BJ Upton's post-game comments:
Joe Maddon introduces a term called meatloafing:
"We did need to win these," manager Joe Maddon said. "There was no other way to look at it. Two out of three -- meatloafing right now -- didn't taste nearly as good. ... Under the circumstances, you have to do what you did. Otherwise it's pretty much impossible to recover from that moment." -mlb.com
Interesting quotes from David Ortiz about the Red Sox and Rays:
"No, at this point you panic," said Red Sox slugger David Ortiz when asked about being the kind of team that doesn't panic. "You've got to panic at this point. But you're not going to do anything panicking but playing better. Of course you're freaked out. You go on this road trip 1-6, it's not good. We've got these guys breathing down our necks and we're not in first place either. We've got to come back and play better, though."
Ortiz added that the Rays have a good look about them right now.
"Well, you know, to be honest with you, the past three days, they look like they have no pressure on themselves," Ortiz said. "That makes a huge difference."-mlb.com
What does SF1 have to say:
Hello Rays fans everywhere,
What a week (end) it was. After my concession speech last week, I am thrilled to announce we are in a playoff race as of this writing. The Rays after their three game sweep of the hated Red Sox find themselves just 3.5 GB the Sox for the coveted wild card spot in the AL.
I have never seen the Rays play with as much intensity and never say die attitude than this weekend, in a series that it can now be said was a must sweep situation for us.
The SP again was outstanding. Who'd thought Wade Davis would twirl a CG versus the Red Sox?
The offense had one good AB after another, as the three game set saw Boston starters go 3,4 and 4 IP in each start.
As for those that wanted to trade anyone not tied down at the deadline for more prospects, I say I'm sure glad Friedman didn't play along. I don't know about the rest of you but I like playing meaningful games in mid September.
Now it's on to Baltimore for three and as always:
Go Rays!!!
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The many faces of Kotchman!
#MagicofKotch has finally reached the mainstream. And guess what, there’s no way Russ Canzler sniffs any of Kotch’s playing time.
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You an i get that RaysRev, but what do we know?
Do you realize what his BA was against those scary good LHP on the Norfolk Tides was this season? I mean how can it be any different playing 1B in Yankee Stadium, a position he’s played a whole 10 games at this year, in the midst of a pennant chase and facing CC Sabathia. Piece of cake
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One of my twitter friend who's well-versed in the Durham Bulls
says Canzler is most comfortable at 3B, LF, DH. I don’t see him getting too many starts at any of those positions this week.
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As i've said many times about Canzler's use at 1B or DH, the two positions the "experts" feel he'll make a difference Joe Maddon has had ample oppurtunities to platoon those positions with more proven options than Russ Canzler and has not done so.
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Really?
Who?
Sean is already in a lineup vs LHP so you can’t use him. Zobrist is more valuable to the team in RF as Joe says he’s the best outfielder on the team and arguably one of the best in the league. Take away those 2 and who else are you using at 1B, before 3 days ago?
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by Jason Collette on Sep 12, 2011 10:24 AM EDT up reply actions
Just reread the tweet
This is in response to my question about Canzler at 1B
@m_weber Maybe 2 or 3 times. I would say that he is better at 1st base than 3rd, and is better in RF than LF.
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well, he his .321 with a .980 OPS vs LHP in the IL this season, but what do we know.
Could he do any worse than the 1-9 with 4 K’s vs Sabathia than your hero has?
It bears repeating, over the past 30 days, MVK has the same wOBA as OHW. You continually rail on Zobrist for his lack of production, yet it’s identical to Kotchman’s. that .264 wOBA is 63 points behind BJ’s, and 113 points behind your other punching bag, MOM.
At some point, value at the plate has to come into play when considering matchups over defense. In Zobrist’s case, there isn’t anyone behind him that makes it worth replacing him. In Kotchman’s case, against certain matchups, not so much.
Let’s get through a MMR thread without 70% of it being #kotchtalk, please?
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by Jason Collette on Sep 12, 2011 10:20 AM EDT up reply actions
Again Mr Collette, it's not about what you or i'd do (i'd leave it unchanged) it's
what our manager after his daily conversations with Friedman would do. Try and understand that
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And since they admittedly use data in their discussions, that's what we "experts" point out.
Objectivity > subjectivity
The business case to make the move is there from a data point of view, but the experience factor can sway judgments. The outcome determines the popularity of it all.
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by Jason Collette on Sep 12, 2011 10:27 AM EDT up reply actions
I know you've been around the block as a baseball fan
and that’s why watching you make these recommendations on where to play Canzler confuses me. You know as well as i that no MLB manager at this juncture is going to play n untested rookie at a position he simply hasn’t played
I can see some of these young number crunchers who watch games with their iPad in their laps saying that but not you
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He has played 401 games at 1st in his career
and has fielded 3,496 chances at the position. He played 17 games there this season when DanJo sat.
Funny how a manager was willing to give an untested rookie high leverage 9th inning work in the ALCS and World Series in 08 over a proven vet can’t give it to 1B in September.
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by Jason Collette on Sep 12, 2011 10:42 AM EDT up reply actions
I don't want to turn this into a K&*ch talk thread but if there's
one position Joe is not going to sacrifice dense it’s 1B. He’ll bat him 7th or 8th v the tough LHP as yesterday, but he has and will continue to pencil him in the line up each and every day till our playoffs are either ended or we clinch
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You know the defensive spectrum
DH—1B—LF—RF—3B—CF—2B—SS
1st base is not as challenging as you make it out to be.
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by Jason Collette on Sep 12, 2011 11:05 AM EDT up reply actions
Stop using the 'you' word
Obviously Joe is the one making the calls and he likes #11 at 1B
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i'm not--his line ups and the interview on the Canzler call up are all i need
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For what exactly? Wanting to use the first baseman the manager has used all year v a rookie call up?
Yes that’s Trolling 101
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Did you miss the sign pictured in the post?
“The many faces of Kotchman” << That seems to make it on topic.
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I think this is the 3rd straight MMR where the 1st post has been about him
Going to rename these Monday Morning Kotchtalks
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by Jason Collette on Sep 12, 2011 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions
Can't wait until he signs a deal somewhere else
and we can just stop talking about him. You know, like what happened with Edwin Jackson and Josh Hamilton…
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by staplemaniac on Sep 12, 2011 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions
then talk to the manager, as i've said earler and i've tried in vain below i want to talk about other aspects of the Rays--he doesn't
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"Hey guys, about Kotch..."
two posts later
“Lets not make this about Kotch”
by firemangreg on Sep 12, 2011 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions
You've railed on the guy all season while he was doing bad and like a starving cat spying a wounded mouse there was never a doubt that you'd jump all over the guy even harder
Let it go man, you’re missing a great sunset with your head in the sand.
and there goes our season
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by gizmosandy on Sep 11, 2011 3:59 PM EDT reply actions
by Sandy Kazmir on Sep 12, 2011 11:03 AM EDT up reply actions
...doing good...
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by gizmosandy on Sep 11, 2011 3:59 PM EDT reply actions
by Sandy Kazmir on Sep 12, 2011 11:04 AM EDT up reply actions
No emotions involved here....just doing my job pointing out supporting data behind what we write about
It’s a process and nobody is going to be 100% right.
Joe has said repeatedly he and AF do not believe in calling guys up in September just to sit around so when they come up, they’re coming up to be used. The fun part now is determining when he is going to be used so that’s all that is happening here.
When a guy is struggling as hard as Kotchman has over the past month, there’s a case to be made when a tough lefty is on the mound. After all, 5 of the 6 CGSO’s vs the Rays this season were done by LH pitchers.
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by Jason Collette on Sep 12, 2011 11:08 AM EDT up reply actions
Well I'm glad you cleared that up, because it doesn't come off as any different than when Sterny was saying, "I BEAT THE SMART KIDS."
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by gizmosandy on Sep 11, 2011 3:59 PM EDT reply actions
by Sandy Kazmir on Sep 12, 2011 11:09 AM EDT up reply actions
btw SK i like Canzler and love his story and am rooting for him NEXT season
But for now as you say a bat off the bench that’s better than Jaso or Briggy is what i hope he gives us
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I agree, though it wouldn't be crazy to see him get a 1-2 starts against a Zach Britton type
Left handed ground ballers should be eating Kotch’s lunch and it’s not like he couldn’t use a day off. If anything they can always sub him back in late for the defense if needed. I think there is some gray area between both of your stances.
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by gizmosandy on Sep 11, 2011 3:59 PM EDT reply actions
by Sandy Kazmir on Sep 12, 2011 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions
Exactly..he hasn't had a full day off since Flip was gone
He missed one start with flu-like symptoms but came into that game in the 7th and hit a pinch hit single and the Rays ended up winning that game.
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by Jason Collette on Sep 12, 2011 11:18 AM EDT up reply actions
Untested rookie won't, but untested 2nd year player will?
You’ve done better
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by gizmosandy on Sep 11, 2011 3:59 PM EDT reply actions
by Sandy Kazmir on Sep 12, 2011 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions
4 starts in 4 seasons
epic
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by Jason Collette on Sep 12, 2011 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions
I forgot that they use bear traps instead of bases at the MLB level, Canzler would be F'd
and let’s be clear, Canzler isn’t a good defender anywhere including 1B. I just wanted to throw that out there, though I think it helps your argument.
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by gizmosandy on Sep 11, 2011 3:59 PM EDT reply actions
by Sandy Kazmir on Sep 12, 2011 11:31 AM EDT up reply actions
I don't think Canzler would start over Kotch.
But if Kotch got rest, the call would be for Canzler, not Elliot Johnson as you propose
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by FreeZorilla on Sep 12, 2011 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm saying I don't think Kotch will sit
but if he did Canzler, not SRod should play first b/c that means Helliot is likely in the lineup.
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i dont think people are advocating he take kotchs job. just a day off here or there against a lefty. i think his inability to aim well the last month+ has a lot to do with like of time off.
his eyes are tired or might have filled back up.
Whose bat do you trust more in a PH situation in the 7th?
An untested rookie or Kotch’s?
Say Canzler starts vs a LHP and then a nasty ROOGY is brought in to face him. Kotch comes off the bench and pinch hits with men on and knocks in runs.
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by Jason Collette on Sep 12, 2011 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions
This team with #11 and #22 in the line up just knocked out one of the AL's top LHP in 4 IP
Joe isn’t about to do a thing—wanna bet on it?
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#22 has been killing the ball over the last month
.378 wOBA – 2nd best one on the team trailing only pretty boy (.408) during that time.
I’m riding that horse until it collapses
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by Jason Collette on Sep 12, 2011 11:28 AM EDT up reply actions
You are 99.99% correct about Canzler Mr. Sternfan
Joe said he is up in the show because he is being rewarded for a great AAA season. He doesn’t expect to use him in a playoff hunt. I think the kid analysts are just a little worked up after running around the bases after sunday’s game.
by Landlord on Sep 12, 2011 11:28 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Landlord i know this, you know it and even they know it
but somehow for whatever reason they make an argument around it
Frankly i’m bored with this Canzler talk, i wann discuss who pitches the 9th tonight as i ask below
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He will be used, but likely as a PH.
MAYBE a game at DH but I doubt it.
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by FreeZorilla on Sep 12, 2011 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions
This was fantastic
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by FreeZorilla on Sep 12, 2011 12:22 PM EDT up reply actions
You'll read it as you want to
but it’s always been about the data with me and not the player. I have nothing against the guy — he’s been nice to chat with the few times we’ve chatted on the field before games & after the game when he’s made himself available.
I’m all about optimal lineups
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by Jason Collette on Sep 12, 2011 11:13 AM EDT up reply actions
How many of those came with Jennings out of the lineup and Longo hurting?
We’ve looked much better of late with two legit RH bats.
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by gizmosandy on Sep 11, 2011 3:59 PM EDT reply actions
by Sandy Kazmir on Sep 12, 2011 11:10 AM EDT up reply actions
1
Wilson’s game on 9/6
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by Jason Collette on Sep 12, 2011 11:14 AM EDT up reply actions
Pretty sure most smart fans are hoping he can be a nice bench bat. Even you Holy Trollers have to be sick of seeing EJ, Briggy, and Jaso as our PH options
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by gizmosandy on Sep 11, 2011 3:59 PM EDT reply actions
by Sandy Kazmir on Sep 12, 2011 11:01 AM EDT up reply actions
Yessir
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by FreeZorilla on Sep 12, 2011 12:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Jeff Niemann's start tonight is worrisome at Camden Yards
He really needs to get back to breaking off that spike curve that had served him so well till recently
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I think Joe has Matt Moore on a plane
to Baltimore,( I could be wrong about that STerney, I have not heard anything officially)
If that is the case, I think Joe will have Jeff on a short leash, with matt ready to come in.
Joe is now playing Captain Hook playoff baseball.
btw, put this on Twitter - notice the difference?

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by Jason Collette on Sep 12, 2011 10:43 AM EDT reply actions
i remember watch thing the national 1-0 game v the Red Sox and the analysts saying how difficult ir is for BJ to time his swings because of the tapping
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in the NL!
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by FreeZorilla on Sep 12, 2011 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions
2 things
On the 8/27 homer (his 18th) – his front foot never leaves the ground as he just does a toe-tap turn.
Secondly, notice his feet are wider apart on the GS yesterday which would cut down on the toe-tap because he’d sprain an ankle trying that maneuver with his feet that far apart.
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by Jason Collette on Sep 12, 2011 11:09 AM EDT up reply actions
He has always struggled with consistency
The PA had a great result, but I’m not going to declare BJ as being BACK and FIXED
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by FreeZorilla on Sep 12, 2011 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Turning point...
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by gizmosandy on Sep 11, 2011 3:59 PM EDT reply actions
by Sandy Kazmir on Sep 12, 2011 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions
turning pt
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by FreeZorilla on Sep 12, 2011 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions
I am glad that this guy is still on the team
and Friedman didn’t wave the white flag.
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Watching B.J play this week
was awesome. The way he smashed that grand slam was unreal. That ball was crushed and he knew it was gone right away, and so did everybody else that heard it.
It's too bad I was getting heckled by Detroit fan in the 120 degree heat at RayJay
and missed the shot. However, I got about 20 txt messages from people who were watching the Bucs on pirate internet while watching the Rays.
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Love the stride in lieu of the twist, whatever puts him on course to get hot for a month
That’s all we need is one sick month out of the the Beejer
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by gizmosandy on Sep 11, 2011 3:59 PM EDT reply actions
by Sandy Kazmir on Sep 12, 2011 11:05 AM EDT up reply actions
My kid is doing the stride and it has helped his timing and power.
If you want to keep guns out of the hands of thugs, just attach job applications to them
LOL
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by gizmosandy on Sep 11, 2011 3:59 PM EDT reply actions
by Sandy Kazmir on Sep 12, 2011 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions
I don't care to see him kill us when he's a Yankee doing Yankee things at Yankee Stadium
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by gizmosandy on Sep 11, 2011 3:59 PM EDT reply actions
by Sandy Kazmir on Sep 12, 2011 11:30 AM EDT up reply actions
Maybe not next year, but I could see him in RF at some point
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by gizmosandy on Sep 11, 2011 3:59 PM EDT reply actions
by Sandy Kazmir on Sep 12, 2011 11:32 AM EDT up reply actions
Outside of the 2008 playoffs this has been my favorite week of Ray fandom in a decade of following the team. Thanks for the memories no matter the finish.
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by gizmosandy on Sep 11, 2011 3:59 PM EDT reply actions
by Sandy Kazmir on Sep 12, 2011 11:00 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Kicking RedSox ass always makes me feel warm & fuzzy.
And just think, this week could be even better. This is way more enjoyable to what we saw last September from the Rays & Yankees as they played the game of “we don’t want to face Cliff Lee”
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Hell yeah
I was in the press box for the UCF game Saturday and the 4 guys around me were prodding me for Rays updates all throughout the game….and they were all local media types and not BC media people.
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by Jason Collette on Sep 12, 2011 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions
Fell out of my chair
They asked what was wrong and I said Kotchman homered. They thought I was lying because they said that was impossible.
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by Jason Collette on Sep 12, 2011 11:33 AM EDT up reply actions
Must be tough for the press in the box to get score updates
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by FreeZorilla on Sep 12, 2011 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions
you'd be surprised how many don't have laptops going
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by Jason Collette on Sep 12, 2011 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Rec'd.
Great week. No doubt.
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Who pitches the 9th in a close game tonight?
Will Joe match up or hand the ball to___ ?
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Probably Peralta
Use Moore as the fireman
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by Imperialism32 on Sep 12, 2011 11:31 AM EDT up reply actions
Whoever is the best fit for the situation
Peralta’s flyball tendencies may not be the best fit for a situation in the 9th if Mark Reynolds or Hardy are up at the plate.
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by Jason Collette on Sep 12, 2011 11:34 AM EDT up reply actions
that's what i was thinking, with the added relievers a match up might work best
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Mr. Sternfan, don't worry about the 9th
All the innings are the 9th from here on out. Joe has a stacked bullpen and is going to play Captain Hook.
Stacked? I'd say there are a lot of bodies, but not stacked
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by FreeZorilla on Sep 12, 2011 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Unless we've got a bunch of games in Safeco or Petco i'm not sure we'll see Joel much in the 9th
especially playing teams left like TOR, BOS, NY and BAL who all have a host of guys that can leave the yeard
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Joe has said recently ( like yesterday) that he likes peralta as an 8th inning type guy
I think Moore is likely to get a relatively lower-mid lev appearance for his first one
Remember Meltdown McGee’s debut with a fastball in the 80s?
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by FreeZorilla on Sep 12, 2011 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions
I guess it's possible, but I don't see that happening to Moore.
The last time he was on national television in a relief role, he set the world on fire throwing 99+ with a knockout breaking pitch. I know it was the futures game, but damnit if it wasn’t amazing.
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Likely not, but one night of getting the feet wet can put him at ease
Didn’t Price debut starting part of a double header, not as a closer?
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i know the pen was taxed but wasnt torres brought in 9th inning of a tie game againt the yankees
I doubt they will be scared to put Moore in a high leverage spot
by Dbullsfan on Sep 12, 2011 3:12 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Moore was on the Baseball Prospectus radio show last night
apparently got the call at 7p last night from the farm director
Click here to listen
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by Jason Collette on Sep 12, 2011 11:43 AM EDT reply actions
that warm up thing worries me too
Moore, just like Hellickson has been a SP for so long and it didn’t work for Hellickson when they tossed him in the pen, who knows with Moore. Price, however, spent less than a full year in the minors, he didn’t care what his role was. I do think Moore will work out but if Neimann is up in the zone again early tonight, we shouldn’t wait, we should give his spot right to Moore.
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I was just talking time in the minors….eh nevermind, basically I would like to see Moore start. Top spect to the pen may of worked for Price and Feliz but there are plenty of cases where it didn’t work out, most recently for us with Hellickson. Neimann has pitched out of the pen a few times in his short career and always looks awesome doing so. I’ll just hope Neimann makes me look like an idiot again tonight.
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there are more top sp prospects that work out of the pen than otherwise. hes also much more similar to price than helly.
being an arsenal/command/pitchability type doesnt work as well out of the pen as mid-to-high-90s and a wipeout slider from the left side does. he also seems like he may be a bit gassed.
Hopefully a week off and one-inning stints are just what the doc ordered
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by gizmosandy on Sep 11, 2011 3:59 PM EDT reply actions
by Sandy Kazmir on Sep 12, 2011 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Neimann was lights out too out of the pen last yr
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by FreeZorilla on Sep 12, 2011 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions
I just worry about his longass warm up time
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by Sandy Kazmir on Sep 12, 2011 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Me too but you have to get the 5 best starters in the rotation
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by Imperialism32 on Sep 12, 2011 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Yup
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by Imperialism32 on Sep 12, 2011 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions
From Topkin
RHP Joel Peralta, who has 102 minor-league saves (including 20 last season for Washington’s Triple-A team), is the top candidate for closing duties, and LHP J.P. Howell (trying to get back to his 2009 17-save form) is also going to be in the mix
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Maddon with a 40 man roster is like Ali in the jungle
Not sure other teams see the benefit that the Rays do with all the matchups and flexible players they have. I don’t think we’ll see a closer, per se, unless Moore is that guy. Even in that case I’d rather use the guy that makes the most sense dependent on leverage, handedness, and what ideal outcome you’re looking for.
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by gizmosandy on Sep 11, 2011 3:59 PM EDT reply actions
by Sandy Kazmir on Sep 12, 2011 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions
I agree with you...
but Maddon has always been in love w/ having a 9th inning guy. I’ll bet Peralta gets the nod during any save opportunity.
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Time will tell, I don't think Mr. Maddon will use set pieces like that, but he might. If so I'd be fine with Peralta being that guy
as it let’s better relievers pitch in potentially higher leverage.
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by gizmosandy on Sep 11, 2011 3:59 PM EDT reply actions
by Sandy Kazmir on Sep 12, 2011 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, it's really not even fair, then add in how they work the loopholes to get guys on the post-season roster
This is going to be an insane emotional roller coaster over the next 2.5 weeks. CAN’T WAIT!
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by Sandy Kazmir on Sep 12, 2011 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions
I know, I'm still not seeing it as a likelihood, maybe 40% we catch all the breaks and stay hot
A loss for us is just so huge right now and a win for the Sox is the same. Which is why this would be so historically crazy to watch happen. If it doesn’t then I’m going to shed a tear and thank the boys for the effort. I’m just thinking how crazy it would be if they end up hosting a playoff game over the week of 10/7 – 10 when I’ll be in Orlando.
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by gizmosandy on Sep 11, 2011 3:59 PM EDT reply actions
by Sandy Kazmir on Sep 12, 2011 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions
im hoping right along with you. no ones foolish enough here to think were going to do it. we think we might.
i just keep going back to how much i wish deezy hadnt gotten banged up right when he was expected to come up.
Pretty sure if they called him on the first day they could
he wouldn’t have been hurt
I do this for free
Or he could lay down a bunt without pinching a finger, something a burner should have perfected after 6900 PA in AAA
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