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Rays Bleh Their Way To A 5-0 Loss

The Tampa Bay Rays could not solve the Dr. Suess-like puzzle that is Ivan Nova, losing in a shutout in one of the league's most hitterest of parks.

Earlier this year, we might have called this a gimme game considering rookie Ivan Nova had yet to show the control necessary to pitch in the majors. Well, since his return to the majors after an early July demotion, he's wrangled his walks under control and been arguably the second best pitcher on the Yankees staff.

That being said, the Rays should not have been shut out tonight. They had a combined 10 different base runners, but Nova had the ground ball working, coaxing 12 ground balls and leaving the Rays with an unfortunate .231 BABIP.

In all fairness, though, the Yankees had a whopping 22 base runners to the Rays' 10. Not only that, they had 4 double to the Rays' 1. The fact that the Yankees scored only 5 runs is mind bottling.

Notes:

  • Wade Davis pitched a stinker. He went 4 and 2/3 innings, walking 5, hitting 1 batter, throwing a wild pitch, and striking out only 2. For a while, it appeared he was not going to escape event the second inning, wherein he allowed a bases-loaded double to Curtis Granderson.
  • Offensively, we can talk about only Sean Rodriguez (2 for 3, all singles), Casey "One Base at a Time" Kotchman (1 for 2, with 2 walks), and B.J. Upton (1 for 4 with a double) -- but only briefly, because the plate discipline sucked tonight, and home plate umpire Wally Bell was clearly just doing his own thing out there (see below the fold).
  • The Red Sox somehow found a way to not only lose today, but burn 7 pitchers in the process. Hopefully the Rays can play much better tomorrow because the Tommy Hunter-Josh Beckett match up certainly doesn't favor the Orioles.

Star-divide

Here are the dandy little strike zones Bell gave Davis and Nova:

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Long story short: Nova did not have great control. The Rays should have killed him tonight.

However, Davis appeared to be struggling with his release point or something because he kept missing in the same, wide, arm-side little zone (that cluster of green on the far left). Bell's crappy zone didn't help either.

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BoSux blew it, they truly are trying to lose the playoff spot

No one cares what you think, all you ever answer with is 'meh.' Go back to your pokemen
by Top Gun Numba 1 on Jan 17, 2011 4:40 PM EST

by Matt0611 on Sep 20, 2011 11:34 PM EDT reply actions  

MLB won't let us take it tho

its just to drum up some better ratings for this last slew of games

by daveh33 on Sep 21, 2011 12:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

It felt over.

And in hindsight, it pretty much was over because the Rays couldn’t score.

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by BWoodrum on Sep 20, 2011 11:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

You're full of shit.

Proof Matthan admitted he was wrong: http://www.draysbay.com/2011/3/18/2058018/ottotd-for-3-18-2011-thursday-night-t-v#61697767

by kericr on Sep 20, 2011 11:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Gentle now.

Attack his argument/statement; not him.

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by BWoodrum on Sep 20, 2011 11:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

I too support bowel movements like this.

Proof Matthan admitted he was wrong: http://www.draysbay.com/2011/3/18/2058018/ottotd-for-3-18-2011-thursday-night-t-v#61697767

by kericr on Sep 20, 2011 11:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

His argument is a dumb frat douche

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by Top Gun Numba 1 on Sep 20, 2011 11:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

It certainly had more characters in it than I would have used

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by Top Gun Numba 1 on Sep 20, 2011 11:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

BWiaCPOS

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by Top Gun Numba 1 on Sep 21, 2011 12:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

Best Written in a Complex Personal Objective Syntax

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by Top Gun Numba 1 on Sep 21, 2011 12:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

Besides, as it isn't on twitter how can it be a personal attack?

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by Top Gun Numba 1 on Sep 21, 2011 12:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

I saw: Bradley Woodrum is a Complete Piece Of S***

…I’m beginning to suspect I might be depressed. :(

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by BWoodrum on Sep 21, 2011 12:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

Seems like a bit of arrogance on your part, and I think the writer might have preferred to use Cloying over Complete

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by Top Gun Numba 1 on Sep 21, 2011 12:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

What is wrong buddy?

Having a rough day?

I do this for free

by SRQman on Sep 21, 2011 12:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

In the future you'll know not to screw with the powerful UZR industry

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by Top Gun Numba 1 on Sep 21, 2011 12:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, apparently not.

Actually, what bothers me most is that I got the topic wrong, so they had to pull the post.

I’m fine arguing my stance on UZR, but a little better communication on my part would mean I wouldn’t have wasted all that time writing the article.

Oh well; live, learn, repeat until dead.

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by BWoodrum on Sep 21, 2011 12:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

So what is your party-line dictate

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by Top Gun Numba 1 on Sep 21, 2011 12:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

I thought the deal was each one of you was supposed to write about one aspect of the FG party line, if yours wasn't UZR what was it

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by Top Gun Numba 1 on Sep 21, 2011 12:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

It was more like I was supposed to look at UZR solely in the context of the MVP races.

I changed the scope to a massive and daring argument in favor of the narrative powers of single-season UZR data — and I argued it poorly.

A DRaysBay and FanGraphs writer from Cubs Stats and Twitter @BradleyWoodrum

by BWoodrum on Sep 21, 2011 12:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

It was a real rough assignment.

No matter what you wrote, the UZR attack mob would have had a field day….it’s simply how they are. I’m more trusting of single-season UZR than most as well, so fwiw, it’d have been a shit show whichever of us wrote it.

Dave should’ve been more in touch with you about that…actually, I’m surprised he hasn’t had more oversight over the whole thing in general.

I love Casey Fossum. Now try and take me seriously. -- @steveslow

by Steve Slowinski on Sep 21, 2011 7:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

Wasn't that Collette's argument

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by Top Gun Numba 1 on Sep 21, 2011 12:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

You're cornering the market on pompous memes aren't you

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by Top Gun Numba 1 on Sep 21, 2011 12:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

Inadvertently, yes.

English degree. Write for free. Banning the People’s Hero.

Am I missing any?

I’m flabbergasted at how hated I am on this site. I have no real-life enemies or even un-friends, but I have become a dictator of hate to so many on this site. :(

One day, I’ll come back down to Tampa Bay and set the records straight.

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by BWoodrum on Sep 21, 2011 12:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

sandys not our hero.

and if he wasnt banned for twitter. we probably wouldnt be pissed.

Yeah, I don't see Badancil turning out well.

@dobbertweets

by blackraven on Jun 27, 2011 5:08 PM PDT

by Badancil on Sep 21, 2011 7:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

Sandy was no hero, until you made him one. You struck him down and now he's more powerful than you can imagine

Seriously though I blame Slow for that.

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by Top Gun Numba 1 on Sep 21, 2011 12:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

This whole Brad as villain meme is lame.

It was mildly interesting in a sociological sense coming from Sandy, because Sandy (RIP) knew his way around a spreadsheet. Brad, was an over-educated, pompous interloper with a different skill set invading his turf (think the Meiji government with their firearms and peasant levies pushing out the Tokogawa Shogunate).

But when the rest of y’all take potshots at Brad, it doesn’t work. Go manipulate some numbers instead. I haven’t read a decent quantitative fanpost in forever.

Maybe we can even work out rewards system: each good fanpost entitles you to one free personal attack on Brad. Steve? (joking, mostly)

by Whelk on Sep 21, 2011 9:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

Love it.

The FanPosts really have been pretty meh. All we get are OTTs, or one of the writers expanding on something.

I love Casey Fossum. Now try and take me seriously. -- @steveslow

by Steve Slowinski on Sep 21, 2011 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

The last decent fanpost I can remember is OneTonneBaby's little piece on Sam Fuld.

If I recall correctly, he was the first to notice (or at least publicly demonstrate) Fuld’s slump had ended.

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by BWoodrum on Sep 21, 2011 11:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

No references to Tom Cruise samurai movies please

The caller said the boy, after removing the bulb from its socket, left the building and threw the bulb on the ground. When the bulb broke, the caller said the boy screamed "not since they nerfed sunfire capes"

If you love Jesus Christ and are 100% proud of it, copy this and make it your signature!

by Top Gun Numba 1 on Sep 21, 2011 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

I have a history degree.

It’s the only thing I’m qualified for. Not my fault Tom Cruise made a crappy movie.

If it’ll make you feel better, though, I can rephrase for a slightly earlier period so it’ll be a reference to Kagemusha, the Kurosawa film about the beginning of the Tokugawa Shogunate.

by Whelk on Sep 21, 2011 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

There is a stated policy on this site to never EVER discuss shadow warriors or any movies about them

The caller said the boy, after removing the bulb from its socket, left the building and threw the bulb on the ground. When the bulb broke, the caller said the boy screamed "not since they nerfed sunfire capes"

If you love Jesus Christ and are 100% proud of it, copy this and make it your signature!

by Top Gun Numba 1 on Sep 21, 2011 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm not likeable here or in real life.

If you want to keep guns out of the hands of thugs, just attach job applications to them

by DeadeyeRR on Sep 21, 2011 10:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

im assuming this is a joke, but otherwise, how so?

we had a 20% chance of overcoming the odds. we have an 8.5% playoff chance per coolstandings.

by rglass44 on Sep 20, 2011 11:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes, it's a joke. Why else would I be anywhere but an OTT?

Proof Matthan admitted he was wrong: http://www.draysbay.com/2011/3/18/2058018/ottotd-for-3-18-2011-thursday-night-t-v#61697767

by kericr on Sep 20, 2011 11:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Okay.

Well in the first inning, the Rays hit the ball hard three times (one line drive, two fliners) but got nothing but three out from it. Still, it felt good because it seemed like the hitters were making solid contact and they could maybe knock Nova around a little.

Unfortunately, the bottom half of the first showed the early signs of trouble as Davis kept falling into deep counts, even walking Derek Jeter and Alex Rodriguez.

After yet another 1-2-3 top of the second, the Yankees opened a can on Davis in the bottom half. The inning went like this: Double, RBI single (Yankees 1 – Rays 0), single, single, strikeout, 3 RBI double (4-0), ground out, ground out.

It was a disgusting display, and when all was done, Davis had thrown 50 pitches and the whole situation seemed rather dire. Nova continued to luck and ground ball his way through the Rays lineup, never facing more than 5 batters an any one inning.

Davis, meanwhile, faced 4 batters in the 5th inning and departed with runners on the corners and two outs. Curtis Granderson then hit a funky groundball to Kotchman, who fielded it on his tummy and tried to toss it laterally to Cesar Ramos, but the throw fell short and Granderson got an RBI single (Yanks 5- Rays 0).

The rest of the game was pretty much autopilot.

A DRaysBay and FanGraphs writer from Cubs Stats and Twitter @BradleyWoodrum

by BWoodrum on Sep 20, 2011 11:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh yeah, there was that too.

I think I had already blocked it out.

You can see that seventh inning blip in the game chart above. It’s the nipple-like protrusion that melts away towards infinity after BJ’s at bat.

A DRaysBay and FanGraphs writer from Cubs Stats and Twitter @BradleyWoodrum

by BWoodrum on Sep 21, 2011 12:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

Come on, Rays!

We’re trying to help y’all!

Giraffes have absurdly strong necks.

by Stacey on Sep 21, 2011 12:03 AM EDT reply actions  

Marissa,

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If you love Jesus Christ and are 100% proud of it, copy this and make it your signature!

by Top Gun Numba 1 on Sep 21, 2011 8:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

The Red Sox want to deal CC for the greatness of Vernon Wells...ouch

http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/redsox/extras/extra_bases/2011/09/ask_nick_would.html

I thank Draysbay for proving that Loose Change fanatics exist in mainstream America, and more importantly for Chik-fil-A spicy chicken recommendations. My life is forever changed

by matthan on Sep 21, 2011 8:11 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Welp, 4 of the 10 questions asked of the BOSTON DOT COM writer came from Florida.

The caller said the boy, after removing the bulb from its socket, left the building and threw the bulb on the ground. When the bulb broke, the caller said the boy screamed "not since they nerfed sunfire capes"

If you love Jesus Christ and are 100% proud of it, copy this and make it your signature!

by Top Gun Numba 1 on Sep 21, 2011 8:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

i have never heard this phrase
The fact that the Yankees scored only 5 runs is mind bottling.
I

"Come at me you scrawny red-dot indian motherfucker." DPIR :The Story

by Rayskins on Sep 21, 2011 8:19 AM EDT reply actions  

lol

The caller said the boy, after removing the bulb from its socket, left the building and threw the bulb on the ground. When the bulb broke, the caller said the boy screamed "not since they nerfed sunfire capes"

If you love Jesus Christ and are 100% proud of it, copy this and make it your signature!

by Top Gun Numba 1 on Sep 21, 2011 8:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

No, his argument sucks

The caller said the boy, after removing the bulb from its socket, left the building and threw the bulb on the ground. When the bulb broke, the caller said the boy screamed "not since they nerfed sunfire capes"

If you love Jesus Christ and are 100% proud of it, copy this and make it your signature!

by Top Gun Numba 1 on Sep 21, 2011 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

If Zobrist was a team guy instead of a responsible human being, last night might have turned out different

Seriously? Missing these games to witness the birth of your son? That’s bush league. I mean, it’s not even their first! Nobody cares about Jan Brady.

by nomoredevil on Sep 21, 2011 9:18 AM EDT reply actions  

I used to respect my Christian brother

but doing this is bs.

If you want to keep guns out of the hands of thugs, just attach job applications to them

by DeadeyeRR on Sep 21, 2011 9:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

Sorry, but if his kid was actually born on Monday(I heard this, can't confirm)

then i think he should have been with the teams for a 7pm game on Tuesday.

Being a major league baseball players is a little different then a normal 9-5 job.

by Sveet on Sep 21, 2011 9:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

Stupid kids

f in up my baseball

"Come at me you scrawny red-dot indian motherfucker." DPIR :The Story

by Rayskins on Sep 21, 2011 9:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

He has all off season to see his new kid

Which, thanks to BenZo, is increasingly likely to come earlier rather than later.

by nomoredevil on Sep 21, 2011 9:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

I know you are being sarcastic, but yes he does

He is going to be back Thursday and not have to make another road trip all year.(hopefully this isn’t the case) He is going to have until March to be with his kids everyday. We should all be so lucky.

by Sveet on Sep 21, 2011 10:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

I am apparently failing at sarcasm today

If the kid was born Monday, her should have been here yesterday. If the kid was born yesterday, he should be here for both games today.

by nomoredevil on Sep 21, 2011 10:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

Agree

In normal circumstances I’d say a baseball player should take 2 days off for a birth. This isn’t a normal circumstance. Ben took off Monday (even though there was no game) and Tuesday. He better be back today.

This assumes everyone is healthy. If not, he shouldn’t even think about baseball.

I thank Draysbay for proving that Loose Change fanatics exist in mainstream America, and more importantly for Chik-fil-A spicy chicken recommendations. My life is forever changed

by matthan on Sep 21, 2011 10:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

Sorry but life > baseball.

We have to remember that it is just a game and with child birth anything can happen and being there for your wife is far more important.

by jcmitchell on Sep 21, 2011 10:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

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