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Alex Torres Plays the Hero, Rays Stay in Hunt With 6-2 Win

Entering the day just one ill-timed loss away from irrelevancy, Saturday's game did not get off to a roaring start. Jeff Niemann was on the mound, working on a full seven days rest, and right from the beginning it was obvious that he didn't have his best stuff. After falling behind the first two hitters he faced -- and walking one of them -- he left a 91-MPH, please-hit-me fastball over the inside part of the plate to Jose Bautista. A mere 0.00005 seconds later, the Rays were down 2-0.

Niemann just barely managed to sneak his way out of the first without allowing any more runs, stranding runners on second and third, but Joe Maddon had already seen enough. To start the second inning, Maddon called in Alex Torres from the 'pen, later clarifying that he didn't remove Niemann because he was injured; he pulled Niemann because he was pitching like crap.

The Rays had managed to tie the game in the bottom of the first, scoring courtesy of a throwing error by Mike McCoy and a double from Johnny Damon. But the Rays weren't exactly hitting laser beams off Ricky Romero -- if not for that error, the Rays would have been blanked in the first -- meaning further offense was likely to be hard to come by. So no pressure, Torres -- you simply have to keep the game close, or the Rays' season is effectively over.

Keep the game close indeed. Alex Torres shut the Blue Jays down in order in the second, and he went on to toss five scoreless innings. He struck out five Jays while only allowing three hits and one walk, and it was easily his most impressive performance in the majors to date. He primarily worked off his fastball and changeup, mixing in a handful of sliders, and holy cow, his changeup can be quite devastating.

Torres threw his change nearly as often as his fastball, and while Brooks Baseball only shows him getting one swing and miss with it, I swear he had more. He was unafraid to throw his changeup in any count, including six on the first pitch, and the pitch had an unusual amount of movement. Changeups normally break like a fastball with more sink, but Torres's change was dancing out there:

Movement

It was a real pretty pitch to watch. Moore has stolen the spotlight this season, but it's worth remembering that Torres is a highly ranked pitching prospect and has quite a bit of upside as well. And his first major league win couldn't have come at a better time.

With Torres shutting down the Jays, the Rays were able to tack runs on the board at their leisure. Ben Zobrist hit his18th homer of the season to give the Rays a 3-2 lead, and then Johnny Damon tacked on some runs in the eighth with a three-run blast. Johnn...erm, Brandon Gomes, Joel Peralta, and Kyle Farnsworth slammed the door closed for the win, and the Rays pulled themselves within 1.5 games of Boston.

Yes, that's right - at 1.5 games back, the Rays could theoretically be tied with Boston by the end of tomorrow, assuming the Rays win their game and Boston loses both games of their doubleheader. Unlikely? Sure. But Tim Wakefield and John Lackey are pitching for Boston, so holy hell, I'm excited.

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Thank you Torres for saving the Rays asses.

It's great to be a Florida Gator!

by Gatorbuc15 on Sep 25, 2011 1:10 AM EDT reply actions   2 recs

I wish we could see Torres at least 1 more time before season ends

Hickey has worked with Torres on pitching more north-south, according to an article in Sunday’s SP Times, to help reduce his walks. Today it really showed. He gets a handle on his walks and he can soar to the top of minor league prospect-dom, ala Moore when he got his control in order.

by raysfaninminnesota on Sep 25, 2011 1:22 AM EDT reply actions  

If Archer progresses, this'll be the most pitching rich the Rays have ever been.

Price, Shields, Hellickson, Niemann, Davis, Moore, Torres, Cobb, Archer…just incredible.

by raysfaninminnesota on Sep 25, 2011 1:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

Hold on to them all forever.

#NEVERTRADE #NEVAFORGET

I do this for free.
#FREESANDY

by SRQman on Sep 25, 2011 1:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

10 man rotation

Maddon's Mission
Make you want to kill him, then make you want to love him. Sly.

by Jonah Keri on Jun 19, 2010 10:31 PM EDT

by Doug09 on Sep 25, 2011 3:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

Something like...

Price
Shields
Moore
Hellickson
Cobb
Torres
Niemann
Davis
Archer
Sonnenstine

so much fun!

I could care less about your graduate degree-I was a full professor at Harvard at 34 and am a full professor at Columbia now in a theoretical field whose main tool is statistical mechanics. So can can come down from your high place.

by Buzzy on Sep 24, 2011 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions

by pudieron89 on Sep 25, 2011 8:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

I do not think

Andy Sonnenstine will be in our rotation next year. I think the redsux will steal him from us and add him to their dominating rotation. Similar to what they did with crawford.

by Landlord on Sep 25, 2011 8:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

great point!

I could care less about your graduate degree-I was a full professor at Harvard at 34 and am a full professor at Columbia now in a theoretical field whose main tool is statistical mechanics. So can can come down from your high place.

by Buzzy on Sep 24, 2011 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions

by pudieron89 on Sep 25, 2011 9:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

Can't wait till Shields and Niemann leave.

#ReducePayrollOperation

"Let's get one thing straight that my crown ain't for testing-testing
Chop heads off like King Henry the 8th, guillotine to ya neck, bitch
I'm a king in this thing, don't be dumb, been in this shit since '94"

by 4QB on Sep 25, 2011 1:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

Archer

should be dangled out in trade for a top prospect this winter. Not a mid level AA guy either. Teams that are pitching starved and looking for a top of rotation starter to add to their system, will overpay for a guy like Archer who has yet to command his stuff in AAA.

Archer could be an ace in the hole to obtain that catcher or first base prospect that the Rays are in the market for.

by MrNegative1 on Sep 25, 2011 11:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

Archer

He’s the guy I would move as well. High value, but I’m not sold that he can control his stuff.

@staplemaniac

by staplemaniac on Sep 25, 2011 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

I hope Brandon Gomes doesn't get lost in this big win

I know Joe loves his match-ups but he went traditional today and it was beautiful to watch our 3 best relievers shut it down in the 7-8-9

by Dbullsfan on Sep 25, 2011 1:39 AM EDT reply actions  

potential for a shut-down pen is there

If Gomes, De La Rosa, and McGee continue to improve, along with vet carryovers Peralta and Farnsworth, Rays got the making for a above average pen.

by raysfaninminnesota on Sep 25, 2011 2:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

de la rosa

Don’t see a future with him. Could be wrong.

by MrNegative1 on Sep 25, 2011 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

wrong

I could care less about your graduate degree-I was a full professor at Harvard at 34 and am a full professor at Columbia now in a theoretical field whose main tool is statistical mechanics. So can can come down from your high place.

by Buzzy on Sep 24, 2011 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions

by pudieron89 on Sep 25, 2011 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

Great post!

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by Top Gun Numba 1 on Sep 25, 2011 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

I have to agree with you. 28 year old minor leaguer that averages four walks per game. Don't think that's going to turn around.

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by Top Gun Numba 1 on Sep 25, 2011 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

(back from independent ball)

Fangraphs is missing a huge chuck of his data.

by firemangreg on Sep 25, 2011 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

Its a shame that fangraphs is the only place you can look for stats

http://www.baseball-reference.com/minors/player.cgi?id=delaro001dan

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by Top Gun Numba 1 on Sep 25, 2011 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

only trolls cite bref

I could care less about your graduate degree-I was a full professor at Harvard at 34 and am a full professor at Columbia now in a theoretical field whose main tool is statistical mechanics. So can can come down from your high place.

by Buzzy on Sep 24, 2011 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions

by pudieron89 on Sep 25, 2011 12:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Until they hire someone from here

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by Top Gun Numba 1 on Sep 25, 2011 12:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agree to disagree buddy

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by Top Gun Numba 1 on Sep 25, 2011 12:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Peyton Hillis is out

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by Top Gun Numba 1 on Sep 25, 2011 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, Foster is out today

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by Top Gun Numba 1 on Sep 25, 2011 12:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

"real league"

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by Top Gun Numba 1 on Sep 25, 2011 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

This one is a purely hypothetical hypothetical football league

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by Top Gun Numba 1 on Sep 25, 2011 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Prizes!! Like a mustache comb or a huffy!

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by Top Gun Numba 1 on Sep 25, 2011 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

A Tour of the Dumpsters of Guatemala

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by Top Gun Numba 1 on Sep 25, 2011 12:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

FMG, Dolph and a piece of bacon talk to a lady:

http://www.bradfox.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/snakenbacon.jpg

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by Top Gun Numba 1 on Sep 25, 2011 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

So the stat boys

are telling me that there is a 97% chance that Wake or Lackey win against the yankees and we lose against the Jays. Somehow I am having a hard time believing these odds. I do like the “it is not very likely” scenerio.
To tell you the truth, if I were an unbiased analysis, I would not think that it is very unlikely that Wake and Lackey crap out.

by Landlord on Sep 25, 2011 8:13 AM EDT reply actions  

MR. Landlord, I believe you are interpreting messers Stat Boys incorrectly

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by Buzzy on Sep 24, 2011 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions

by pudieron89 on Sep 25, 2011 8:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

1 QS this month

Better than 0 last month. Happened against the M’s. Just FYI for anyone interested.

Trade BJ, please!

by SandalsNoPants on Sep 25, 2011 12:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

This just in

I forgot to take into consideration that the redsux saved John Lester ,by only letting him throw 55 pitches that the yankees absolutely crushed.Lester will be able to pitch against the showalters, thereby giving the redsux a 97% chance of winning

by Landlord on Sep 25, 2011 8:23 AM EDT reply actions  

at some point the stats take a back seat

to the major mental gripping that must be happening in the Red Sox locker room. Heard Adrian Gonzales crow about this is “no different than our 2-10 start”…yeah, right. At 2-10 you still had 150 games to go, now you have 5.

“Saved” Lester – from what? He’s been terrible for a few starts, and if they expect strong performances from Lackey and Wakefield they’re like the Rays, pinning their hopes on rookies…except the rookies are like the 2-10 start – lot of time and promise. Wakefield is used up, and Lackey is just broken and not dealing with it well emotionally.

I really feel that the emotional aspect of this is taking a bigger toll on Boston than Jon Lester giving up 8 runs in 2 2/3 IP. The Rays were not expected to contend, the Red Sox were annointed WS Champs in March. That clubhouse has to be tighter than a drum head right now.

by tampa_edski on Sep 25, 2011 9:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

going into yesterday

Lester was 8-2 lifetime against New York and got smoked.

Lifetime he is 14-0 against Baltimore. Time for some regression there as well. He’s ripe and due for a Camden beating.

by MrNegative1 on Sep 25, 2011 11:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

absolutely

you are 100% correct. Hope that things switch course just because!

by MrNegative1 on Sep 25, 2011 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

So Guarded
Yes, that’s right – at 1.5 games back, the Rays could theoretically be tied with Boston by the end of tomorrow, assuming the Rays win their game and Boston loses both games of their doubleheader. Unlikely? Sure. But Tim Wakefield and John Lackey are pitching for Boston, so holy hell, I’m excited.

How unlikely is it? I will go out on a limb and predict that the Rays and Red Sox will be tied come nights end. I will use the fringiest (new word) of statistics to make my case!

Rays have won 13 series in a row against Toronto at the Trop and for the hell of it, I’ll predict the streak runs to 14.

The Yankees have not lost a doubleheader since 2006 or something like that, so I’ll go ahead and hedge to a minimum split.

Wakefield and Lackey? I’ll hedge on a sweep unless the Red Sox put up a lot of runs and Girardi goes to the no name bullpen and basically says “uncle” in one of the games.

Go Rays!

by MrNegative1 on Sep 25, 2011 11:10 AM EDT reply actions  

Torres

Mentioned this on Twitter yesterday. For those who watched the game, Torres had a moment somewhere around his 2nd or 3rd inning of work where he seemed to really have a leap in confidence.

I’d like to say that he 100% believed he was a major league pitcher and he was in control of the outcome of each hitter. I don’t know if I’m saying it the correct way.

Another observation was he seemed comfortable with Lobaton and had a good rhythm going.

It was great to see. No doubt when Torres has his command and confidence he is a very difficult pitcher to hit.

by MrNegative1 on Sep 25, 2011 11:18 AM EDT reply actions  

I like this Casey Fossum, once traded for Schilling! I'm expecting big things

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by Top Gun Numba 1 on Sep 25, 2011 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'll be writing grant proposals during the Rays game

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by Top Gun Numba 1 on Sep 25, 2011 12:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Interesting, the Yankees and Red Sox both have SP signed to simiale

5/$85mil deals that are pretty much useless

Imagine the Rays had one of those

follow me on twitter @sternfan10

by sternfan1 on Sep 25, 2011 12:14 PM EDT reply actions  

This is literally the first time I've ever heard someone point out the hypocrisy of someone that is Pro-life and pro death penalty. I had never considered that.

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by Top Gun Numba 1 on Sep 25, 2011 12:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Why would they photo shop in a backwards baseball cap?

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by Top Gun Numba 1 on Sep 25, 2011 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Scumbag Perry.

I guess you and Scumbag Steve aren’t acquainted.

by firemangreg on Sep 25, 2011 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

I can, but I think it's a false dichotomy. You're not executing a murderer to prevent him/her from killing again, you're doing it out of retribution. Killing is killing. At least with abortion there are times its done to save a live (the mothers)

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by Top Gun Numba 1 on Sep 25, 2011 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

No...no!
SPTimesRays Marc Topkin
#Rays Maddon says Niemann would be able to make next start, assuming there is a next start

I do this for free.
#FREESANDY

by SRQman on Sep 25, 2011 12:24 PM EDT reply actions  

The only way there is a next start is if it's a play-in game or a playoff game. Why the fuck would Maddon use him?

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by Top Gun Numba 1 on Sep 25, 2011 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

So 2012

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by Top Gun Numba 1 on Sep 25, 2011 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Reds

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by Top Gun Numba 1 on Sep 25, 2011 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

I like this interpretation.

Seriously, Niemann better not be the Rays starter for a 1-game playoff. Or their #4 in the playoffs. Screw that.

I love Casey Fossum. Now try and take me seriously. -- @steveslow

by Steve Slowinski on Sep 25, 2011 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

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