Luke Scott: Some Concerning Numbers?
by MrNegative1 on Jan 11, 2012 8:05 PM EST
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PrintEarlier today it was reported that Luke Scott and the Rays have agreed on a 1-year contract with an option for 2013. According to Scott the contract includes some incentives and he expects to be the teams DH. He only played in 64 games in 2011 and struggled as he tried to play through a shoulder injury by hitting .220/.301/.402 with 9 HR in 236 PA.. He had season ending shoulder surgery in July and anticipates that he will be ready for Spring Training.
Scott has a career OPS of .843 and a lifetime slash line of .264/.349/.494. In his career he has been very effective versus right handed pitching with an OPS of .859 (.271/.357/.501) while being adequate versus left handed pitching with an OPS of .787 (.240/.318/.469). His most productive season came in 2010 when he posted an OPS of .902 by hitting .284/.368/.535 with 27 HR.
The numbers for Luke Scott are impressive but there are some numbers that could be concerning such as his home and away splits and his performance at Tropicana Field.
- From 2008 to 2010 he posted an OPS of .845 with a slash line of .266/.348/.497 averaging 25 HR and 71 RBI per season.
- From 2008 to 2010 he posted a OPS of .958 by hitting .294/.382/.576 with 48 HR at Camden Yards but posted an OPS of .731 by hitting .238/.313/.418 with 27 HR on the road.
- Like many of the 2011 Rays Scott's more comfortable away from Tropicana Field. In his career he has struggled at Tropicana Field posting an OPS of .656 by hitting .202/.291./365 in 117 PA.
- Some have suggested that these numbers are a reflection of Scott having to face the Rays pitching staff but at Camden Yards he has posted an OPS of .853 by hitting .255/.355/.489 against the Rays in 110 PA.
Do any of these numbers concern you?
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imagine what a fiasco it'd be if there was a race war going on in the locker room..
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What's his GB/FB ratio on balls in play?
Also, for those of you clamoring for Pena, I would anticipate Scott having a better bat: Again, if protection for Longo is the idea.
by playjoyce on Jan 11, 2012 8:15 PM EST via mobile reply actions
I agree protection is not real. Its been proven not toThat is why the logic in bringing Pena back is flawed.
Kotchman was more valuable than Pena last year, yet for some reason he is being pushed as an upgrade over Kotch because of the HR threat.
by playjoyce on Jan 11, 2012 9:54 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Good point.
But when projecting forward, it’s best not to just rely on one year of data. If I had to pick who I think will have the better year in 2012, I’d definitely pick Pena, even though he is so much older.
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by Steve Slowinski on Jan 11, 2012 11:04 PM EST up reply actions
Concerns
We had him in Houston for a few years, and he could not be more useless with a glove on his hand. I prefer Damon.
DH doesn't require a glove
and the Astros only gave up Jeroime Robertson for him:
http://tribetalk365.blogspot.com/2010/11/great-scott-really-but-robertson-had-15.html
FG has him as a positive fielder every season he played with the Astros.
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by SandalsNoPants on Jan 11, 2012 8:54 PM EST up reply actions
In 2010, it appears that the issue was BABIP.
And he even hit a greater percentage on line drives on the road.
An interesting thing is that from 2008-2010 he has had a much better K/BB ratio at hom than away.
2008 Home: K/BB 32/45
2008 Away: 21/57
2009 Home: 33/45
2009 Away: 22/59
2010 Home: 33/45
2010 Away: 26/53
Total Home: 98/135
Total Away: 69/169
So maybe it is the comfort of playing with a home crowd?
And wow is he consistent in those numbers.
DHs better on turf
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Doesn't BJ hit better at Camden too? Maybe he simply picks up the ball better there.
That could be concerning.
by playjoyce on Jan 11, 2012 9:56 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Like 99% of ball players hit better at Camden than at the Trop
It’s been shown that park factors extend to things like K/BB rate (perhaps for mental reasons?)
by benderbrodriguez on Jan 11, 2012 10:04 PM EST up reply actions
Yup, this was my main thought when looking at his splits.
Between that and the steady home/away BABIP difference, it just seems like he gets off his game on the road — his plate discipline sours and he doesn’t make as solid contact. I’ve got to imagine that’s more just a comfort thing than tied to any particular park.
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by Steve Slowinski on Jan 11, 2012 11:06 PM EST up reply actions
Why be concerned?
If he is slotted as the DH, it’s not like we are used to getting any sort of production from the DH spot.
The torn labrum on his right shoulder would be my biggest concern.
That is his lead shoulder for power as a LH’er hitter. While the recovery time is usually 6 months, the same surgery seemed to bother Upton the entire 2009 season(he had his surgery done in November)
both were off-season jobs
in fact, just about everyone who has had that surgery did it in the off-season (Shawn Green, Adam LaRoche). At least Scott was smart enough to call it a year in July and get it done then.
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by Jason Collette on Jan 11, 2012 10:20 PM EST up reply actions
Have to trust the medical team here
Our guy did the surgery so he knows the story and the surgery was 6 months ago. If this was off-season as Upton had before 09, I’d be more worried.
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by Jason Collette on Jan 11, 2012 10:02 PM EST up reply actions
.
“Didn’t realize the DH and 1B brought the offense down. Thought we would’ve had an offer.’’
“You wonder why fans can’t get involved with players,‘’ he said, "because they are here and gone.’’
@RealNolenBailey
"Didn’t realize the DH and 1B brought the offense down. Thought we would’ve had an offer.’’
AF seems to think it did.
Which is why I don’t see Kotchman or Pena returning either, especially at what they may cost.
Kotchman should be able to pull a 2 year deal and Pena is likely to get at least 6-7 million, IMO.
Yikes
Did he mean “we” as in he and Kotch? Looked that way in the context of his quote.
by Ben Tumbling on Jan 11, 2012 9:46 PM EST up reply actions
We've said here many times
If it were those two they wanted back, it would have happened already. They do not appear to be primary options.
Scott, even with the bad shoulder numbers last year, has a higher wOBA & wRC+ than Damon over the past three seasons. When you see a chance to improve your ball club, you take it.
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by Jason Collette on Jan 11, 2012 10:04 PM EST up reply actions
True colors shining through?
I saw nothing but professionalism from him up close this season but this was not the road less traveled tonight.
This is a business; you are not kept until you are ready to leave. I want my business to field the best talent possible and if you have a chance to get younger AND better in the same move, you do it.
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by Jason Collette on Jan 11, 2012 10:11 PM EST up reply actions
Players being upset that they are not on the Rays is a compliment to the franchise
Damon obviously wanted to play here, I don’t see it as unprofessional to be a little sore over not being asked back.
His agent is Scott Boras too
There’s a reason he’s jobless at this point in the season
I put the screw IN THE TUNA!
by Transplanted on Jan 11, 2012 10:11 PM EST up reply actions
you mean its possible the rays can find an upgrade on a 38 yr old DH?
I, too, share in your disgust, johnny come lately. And well played with the attendance jab. Your original wit is only surpassed by your baseball acumen. They are a bunch of trolls, but what do you expect from a bunch of, well we can’t say it, but perhaps your replacement can. I hear he’s racist. He doesn’t have any class like you do.
by raysfaninminnesota on Jan 11, 2012 10:03 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
So...
Damon is mad because AF is trying to improve his team? Right…
That's cute
Coming from the guy who left the Red Sox for the Yankees.
by fsucb on Jan 11, 2012 9:59 PM EST via mobile reply actions
furthermore
“Obviously, I love playing there, but for some reason they’re looking for a DH and a first baseman. And I thought Kotchman and I were probably the two more consistent guys in the lineup last year. I know they want to upgrade the offense, but the offense is going to be fine as long as there’s some production from the catching spot and shortstop.
“Those positions were hitting under .200 and obviously I think that’s going to improve, and because of that, it’s going to make the rest of the team improve. But Kotch and I keep hearing in the offseason that they want to get better there (DH and first).”
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wowwwww what a dick move
“Yes I’ll blame the two most defensively minded positions for being bad at hitting because the two most offensively minded were merely mediocre”
by benderbrodriguez on Jan 11, 2012 10:05 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Our DH's had the 5th worst OPS last season at .744
If team brought in Abreu over him, he could go off. Sorry, Johnny, but the club just improved.
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by Jason Collette on Jan 11, 2012 10:09 PM EST up reply actions
And that's the best part about this club.
If it can be improved, your household name doesn’t keep you here.
@RealNolenBailey
and if fans are going to stay away because of the name on the back of the jersey rather than the one on the front?
That’s their major malfunction.
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by Jason Collette on Jan 11, 2012 10:15 PM EST up reply actions
An argument could be made that Kaz also falls in this boat given that he was performing at the time, but DAMN that's a good trade in hindsight
by benderbrodriguez on Jan 11, 2012 10:43 PM EST up reply actions
He wasn't really performing at the time.
Sure, he went on a little hot streak for the Angels. But he wasn’t performing with the Rays.
instead of grateful for the opportunity for one more year in the sun
He wants to be angry at them because no one else will give him a full time job. But he could say, and has over his career, that he has the choice to sign with whoever he wants whenever he wants. Well ain’t this a kick in the scrotum…
by raysfaninminnesota on Jan 11, 2012 10:07 PM EST via mobile reply actions
BREAKING:
We will not be taking out an add in the TBT to thank Damon for his time here
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by Jason Collette on Jan 11, 2012 10:12 PM EST reply actions
We hardly knew ya JD
Baseball 101: The players chase the money and the fans and mgt. chase the stats.
by just_another_handle on Jan 11, 2012 10:15 PM EST reply actions
nice job, ramedy
I guess that comment means Damon’s attendance clause didn’t vest.
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by Jason Collette on Jan 11, 2012 10:18 PM EST reply actions
that's the twitter handle
I thought he posted as that here as well….can’t keep track of everyone
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by Jason Collette on Jan 11, 2012 10:25 PM EST up reply actions
Vest? It should've refunded the Rays money
I put the screw IN THE TUNA!
by Transplanted on Jan 11, 2012 10:24 PM EST up reply actions
Damon's comments don't bother me
I think it’s kind of neat that he’s feeling emotional about, essentially, being fired. How many other ballplayers — particularly ones as mercenary as Johnny Damon has been over his career — are truly sad when their sixth employer doesn’t want them back?
I agree completely
Damon is just upset about being fired, let the guy vent a little. I wish him well except in situations that would negatively affect the Rays.
I love this signing
If Scott didn’t have that down year last year he probably would have been too rich for us or BAL just would have kept him. From 08-10 he was a beast and with our own medical director doing the surgury on his shoulder I’m confident that the Rays have done their homework on his injury issue. He had a bad year last year but he only had one shoulder to swing with. Great move for the Rays.
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