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Rays Interested in Jeff Keppinger?

First brought to our attention by John Gregg of RaysDigest.com, and more recently DRaysBay, it appears as if there has been some dialogue between the Rays and middle infielder Jeff Keppinger.

The account isn't verified, but @JeffKeppinger has been tweeting about possibly joining the Rays over the past few days. This tweet from January 15th in particular sticks out

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There's zero cache in creating a fake Jeff Keppinger Twitter account, and Giants' reliever Sergio Romo and Giants' beat writer Andrew Baggarly both follow it, lending a bit more credibility. The fact that a Jon Heyman or Ken Rosenthal hasn't picked up on this yet is a bit worrisome, but...it's Jeff Keppinger. We're not reporting this as fact, but it would make a lot of sense if true. The Rays have publicly been linked to Ryan Theriot this off-season, and Keppinger is virtually the same player.

Career AVG OBP SLG wOBA
Theriot .282 .344 .353 .315
Keppinger .281 .329 .386 .317

Theriot has been the better defender according to UZR, but it's virtually a wash at the plate. Like Theriot, Keppinger would have to come at a discount. There's no chance the Rays would match or exceed the $2.3 million he made last season.

The 2011 season was Keppinger's worst since since 2008, splitting time between Houston and San Fransisco. He's played excellent at times -- 2007 and 2010 -- but has been below league average overall. The 31-year-old has seen over 100 games of action at second base, shortstop and third base respectively. He's a high contact (92.9%) low strikeout utility infielder that would allow the Rays to upgrade over incumbent Elliott Johnson.

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#s vs LHP in a bit of a free fall

(see here) but he can play 2b, ss, and 3rd in a reserve role as well. Seems like a minor league/MLB invite type of addition

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by Jason Collette on Jan 17, 2012 6:24 AM EST reply actions  

If true, hopefully it is just a complimentary signing

A Jeff Keppinger or Theriot signing as the final piece in this off-season would make me very sad. If they sign Pena and/or make a trade, then it is a great thing; since I would not see Elliot Johnson anymore.

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by Tonage on Jan 17, 2012 8:05 AM EST reply actions  

Why? They are both better then Reid Brignac

October 28th, 2011-- a date which will live in infamy--

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by Sveet on Jan 17, 2012 10:00 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

both are older and no longer have a lot of upside, where as Brignac does and costs somewhere around league min.

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by pudieron89 on Jan 17, 2012 10:37 AM EST up reply actions  

What's the upside? He might have a career year and have a .240wOBA?

You know what you are getting with Kepp and Theriot. This team has no chance at the playoffs if they get a wOBA close to .200 from the primary SS.

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by Sveet on Jan 17, 2012 10:41 AM EST up reply actions  

bullshit, you seriously must be trolling.

Brignac was crap last season but we have very little reason to believe that’s his true talent level. He’s young enough to turn it around and is a better defender than either of them. I’d rather have great defense and an anemic bat in the 9 hole than average to below average defense and average to below average offense.

You know what you’re getting with Kepp and Theriot, that’s true: $1m+ for something not as good as we have in Brignac; or marginally better than Elliot, but not worth the cost over league min.

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by pudieron89 on Jan 17, 2012 10:49 AM EST up reply actions  

I'm not saying Briggy doesn't have upside

but he had about as bad of a year last year as you can have at the plate. The Rays can’t have that again and need to cover their bases.

What reason is there to think Briggy rebounds? He might not be as bad as last year, but he needs to be significantly better at the plate then he was last year to be better then Kep or Theriot. I just don’t see it.

Also Kep and Theriot hit lefties well.

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by Sveet on Jan 17, 2012 10:56 AM EST up reply actions  

I can appreciate this POV

Just based on the evidence before you. Briggy is a YOUNG guy, who may or may not get it turned around in 2012. If for some reason that upside doesn’t translate as soon as we’d like, a guy like Keppinger would provide some value if for nothing more than some consistency.

Before the Rays came along, I was a huge Astros fan (Biggio man crush), so I kinda keep up with them still. They’re a dumpster fire, but Keppinger is serviceable. IMO would depend on what we get him for.

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by CornNole on Jan 17, 2012 10:59 AM EST up reply actions  

past "success" relative to what he showed, being a younger player

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by pudieron89 on Jan 17, 2012 12:13 PM EST up reply actions  

I love the fact that he literally never strikes out.

At first glance last night I wasn’t too impressed. But the more I look at him, the more I think he would be a nice fit on the team.

"I don't believe in just being out there and just grinding away. Let's do it intelligently, let's do it quickly, let's get it done. And then move on." ----Joe Maddon

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by John Gregg on Jan 17, 2012 9:04 AM EST reply actions  

No thanks. I'd rather keep Elliot as our INF UT man.

Keppinger’s defense is just about proven at this point: A liability at short and not an asset at second.

My man Elliot put up 0.5 WAR in 181 PAs of 57 wRC+ hitting — to have a positive WAR while using a baguette as you bat is pretty incredibly impressive to me.

by BWoodrum on Jan 17, 2012 9:54 AM EST reply actions  

nice to see you post again Bradley, you're almost never here

I’ve been hoping you’d drop by so I could tell you I’m gonna see Fitz & the Tantrums in April, since you’re the only other person I’ve ever met on the internet who knows them.

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by pudieron89 on Jan 17, 2012 10:38 AM EST up reply actions  

I love Fitz & the Tantrums!

Never seen them live, but heard they put on a great show.

"I don't believe in just being out there and just grinding away. Let's do it intelligently, let's do it quickly, let's get it done. And then move on." ----Joe Maddon

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by John Gregg on Jan 17, 2012 10:40 AM EST up reply actions  

I really like the French version of Moneygrabber, anytime you can make a great, catchy song and have it be great in French too, you're pretty damn talented.

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by pudieron89 on Jan 17, 2012 10:50 AM EST up reply actions  

They performed at the Broadcast Film Critics Association Awards

Which I imagine is available by streaming on VH1’s website.

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by Brickhaus on Jan 17, 2012 11:55 AM EST up reply actions  

I'M SO F'ING JEALOUS!

I got their vinyl for Christmas and just listened to it last night (my first full day at home since Christmas). They are simply too good.

by BWoodrum on Jan 17, 2012 12:13 PM EST up reply actions  

Saying “Theriot has been the better defender according to UZR, but it’s virtually a wash at the plate” is the baseball version of ….of…of saying “Theriot has been the better defender according to UZR, but it’s virtually a wash at the plate.” There’s just nothing else to comp it to. When Ryan Theriot is a better anything than a player at anything—hitting, running the bases, fielding, spitting seeds, parallel parking, it’s tough to get interested.

Johnson had a .252 wOBA last year and was worth almost as much WAR (0.5 WAR in only 181 PA) as Theriot (0.7 WAR in 483 PA) and more than Keppinger (0.4 WAR) had in more than 2X as many PA.

Spending any marginal salary money on Jeff Keppinger or Ryan Theriot is a waste of money. They’re abysmal defenders who are not a better option than Johnson a a late-inning defensive sub or a utility guy who is spelling the starting SS or Zobrist.

by themiddle54 on Jan 17, 2012 10:32 AM EST reply actions  

How do they compare to Reid's WAR?

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by Sveet on Jan 17, 2012 10:39 AM EST up reply actions  

Favorably, but..

Brignac just turned 26 and had a year in which he struggled at the plate. He has as good a chance as any MLB player to improve this year and remaining upside. There’s not much reason IMO to project another 200 wOBA from Brignac. I think his career .260 mark is far more likely where he lands, and with 450PA he could be a 2.5 win player again.

Theriot is six years older than Brignac, has zero upside, and has been worthless for two years. He is bad at the plate, horrible on the bases, and a downright nightmare in the field.

Keppinger is about to turn 32, has had one league-average season, one amazing but short 2007 when his ISO and his BABIP were out of line with the rest of his career and a probably-generous +.04 UZR. Otherwise, he has five seasons that combine for less than 1 win. Liek Theriot, and unlike Brignac, he has zero upside.

by themiddle54 on Jan 18, 2012 10:20 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Theriot

I’d rather have Theriot personally.

by learnedglove on Jan 17, 2012 10:59 AM EST reply actions  

As a Cardinals fan, take my advice and don't sign Ryan Theriot

He is an absolutely awful defensive SS (but serviceable at 2B) and can really only hit lefties, and is a very bad baserunner. People also talk about him being a clubhouse guy, but he wasn’t that nice about being moved to 2B in Chicago, LA, or St Louis. Plus there’s this:

http://mlb.sbnation.com/2011/9/19/2435449/ryan-theriot-egotist

VEB has a collective aneurysm when we talk about him or think about him

RE-SIGN EVERYONE

by Notorious PSC on Jan 17, 2012 11:49 AM EST reply actions  

Billy Butler

Some rumors saying Butler <> Hughes straight up, and those come from Royals source . I would be happy to make Niemann <> Butler trade in a nano second. Niemann is much better pitcher than Hughes and more team controlled years vs. Hughes have 2 years left. Butler had hit 16 homers since all-star break and I think he has the potential to be 3-30-100 guy Rays has been looking for. 3/24m for this guy I would be happy to have him.. and put Scott in 1B as he is at least average defender there (UZR/150 for 2011: 10.1, Career UZR/150: 0.1)

by Patrick Relano Kim on Jan 17, 2012 12:00 PM EST reply actions  

PHIL Hughes? bhahaahahahhaha

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by pudieron89 on Jan 17, 2012 12:14 PM EST up reply actions  

I like him more than Theroit

I think…

Matt Moore. That is all.

by joeybw on Jan 17, 2012 12:07 PM EST reply actions  

I've discussed with other Giants bloggers...

…and I’m now thinking the account is fake. Keppinger never contacted the Giants directly to try to verify it (according to the team’s director of social media), and there are definitely some oddities about the account if you look at the tweets. It’s probably safe to assume it isn’t real, at least for now.

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by Julian Levine on Jan 17, 2012 12:10 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

Well that sucks.

This was always a very real possibility unfortunately. I guess we’ll find out soon enough.

"I don't believe in just being out there and just grinding away. Let's do it intelligently, let's do it quickly, let's get it done. And then move on." ----Joe Maddon

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by John Gregg on Jan 17, 2012 12:14 PM EST up reply actions  

Having said that.

Steve, Eric, and I all discussed it last night and felt at the time that it was legitimate and worth at least putting out there. Eric covered all the bases in the article and mentioned that it was unverified and not being reported as true.

My gut feeling is that account is legitimate, otherwise I wouldn’t have mentioned it to everyone involved. I’ll feel like a putz if it’s fake.

"I don't believe in just being out there and just grinding away. Let's do it intelligently, let's do it quickly, let's get it done. And then move on." ----Joe Maddon

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by John Gregg on Jan 17, 2012 12:23 PM EST up reply actions  

but why waste the time?

Some one needs to make a fake Elliot account. A few people in wherever he was born might care what he’s not actually doing.

Matt Moore. That is all.

by joeybw on Jan 17, 2012 12:17 PM EST up reply actions  

That's the beauty in it Joey

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by Sveet on Jan 17, 2012 12:55 PM EST up reply actions  

He did send a tweet to @SFGiants

asking for verification. Still doesn’t mean it’s real…but there is that.

"I don't believe in just being out there and just grinding away. Let's do it intelligently, let's do it quickly, let's get it done. And then move on." ----Joe Maddon

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by John Gregg on Jan 17, 2012 12:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, wouldn’t be surprised if it was real .. And there’s really nothing wrong with posting this.

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by Julian Levine on Jan 17, 2012 1:01 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Oh, and a word on Keppinger..

His low K% is very nice, but it’s mostly negated by his lack of patience/power. And his defense at second base, the only position he’s realistically capable of playing right now, is AWFUL. He has a serious lack of range. Pretty sure he was last in the majors in DRS at 2B, and the eye-test confirms his shortcomings.

If he could provide average glovework, he’d be useful, but I wouldn’t count on it, personally.

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by Julian Levine on Jan 17, 2012 12:13 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

Got more info on the Jeff Keppinger account.

I got a couple of tweets from Matt Bankston who is the perso who originally tweeted that Keppinger had met with Joe Maddon.

His tweets to me are as follows:

" @RaysDigest the Jeff Kepp account isn’t a fake, I attended Parkview HS w/him and remain friends. I assure that the info I post is accurate."

“@RaysDigest the call was just a preliminary type deal, they did offer something (low) and he has interest from a few other teams. Tb is fav.”

“@RaysDigest @draysbay the account was started in the offseason with pressure from friends. He’s not a social media guy.”

So that’s that…for what it’s worth. But I am now a little more confident in the validity of the rumor.

"I don't believe in just being out there and just grinding away. Let's do it intelligently, let's do it quickly, let's get it done. And then move on." ----Joe Maddon

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by John Gregg on Jan 17, 2012 5:26 PM EST reply actions  

Here is link to Matt Bankston

for those who wish to verify the above quotes.

https://twitter.com/mattkbankston

"I don't believe in just being out there and just grinding away. Let's do it intelligently, let's do it quickly, let's get it done. And then move on." ----Joe Maddon

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by John Gregg on Jan 17, 2012 5:47 PM EST up reply actions  

More from Matt Bankston

Via DM on Twitter:

“Most of his tweets are made from a friend (not me) but they are accurate. Jeff told me about the Maddon call himself, he expressed interest”

“And that he would be a situational hitter for the rays. Jeff is originally from Miami and with his location in ga, tb would be a good fit.”

“I think some effort has been made to verify, but I don’t know how that works, and Jeff really doesn’t care himself. It’s just for some buzz”

"I don't believe in just being out there and just grinding away. Let's do it intelligently, let's do it quickly, let's get it done. And then move on." ----Joe Maddon

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by John Gregg on Jan 17, 2012 5:33 PM EST reply actions  

Welp, might as well have not DMed them and just posted away

Somewhere Friedman is scowling

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by FreeZorilla on Jan 17, 2012 5:59 PM EST up reply actions  

The first set of tweets were made publicly.

Before he sent me additional DM’s. He let the cat of the bag.

"I don't believe in just being out there and just grinding away. Let's do it intelligently, let's do it quickly, let's get it done. And then move on." ----Joe Maddon

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by John Gregg on Jan 17, 2012 6:07 PM EST up reply actions  

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