Under .250? My concern....

by TheGrinch on Jan 21, 2012 10:21 AM EST

Don't get me wrong----I love the Pena signing. What I'm concerned about is the numbers of starting players with a real potential to hit below .250. For my lineup I used MLBDepthcharts - it seems fairly reasonable to me.

1) Jennings (LF) I certainly expect DJ to be above the line this year, but I also expect some growing pains--closer to .250 than .300

2) Upton (CF) Hasn't been above .250 since 2008.......what makes us think this will change?

3) Longoria (3B) Yes I believe last year was an abberation at .244.........but still......

4) Pena (1B) Almost a lock to be under, hasn't hit over since '07, has been under .230 last 3 years including under .200 in 2010

5) Zobrist (2B) Should be over, has been inconsistent--last 3 years, .297, .238, .269 I think lineup spot plays into how he does.

6) Joyce (RF) Last year showed a lot of growth and I expect that to continue, hit .241 in 2010, but in only 216 AB, he's safe to be over IMO

7) Scott (DH) .220 last year but was battling injury. He'll be over IF he's healed, if not...........

8) Rodriguez (SS) .251 in 2010, .223 in 2011 I don't feel that confident

9) Molina (C) Been under .250 3 of the last 4 years........no spring chicken

The bench doesn't offer much support either. I don't want to sound like Mr. Pessimist, but as we know we are only going as far as our pitching will take us. We absolutely have more power than last year, but at what cost?

I'm not sayin'.........I'm just sayin'

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But the OBP of the team will be higher than last year I'm fairly certain.

by jtmorgan on Jan 21, 2012 10:58 AM EST reply actions 1 recs

Yes, this

Plus, even if we matched last season’s average, we will be generating more runs, as long as everyone stays healthy.

This meme definitely has a shelf life to it

by Jason Collette on Dec 29, 2011 11:31 AM EST upreplyactions

So do you.

BOOM. ROASTED!

by SandalsNoPants on Dec 29, 2011 11:32 AM EST upreply Rec Flag

by sc_monsta1015 on Jan 21, 2012 11:02 AM EST up reply actions

I think we will have a higher team average than we did last year--even with the Pena signing.

Almost everyone in the lineup is heading up, and I think we can support Pena’s low average. Not to mention we had the 2nd-worst team BABIP in the league last season. I think we end up hitting .250 or higher as a team.

This meme definitely has a shelf life to it

by Jason Collette on Dec 29, 2011 11:31 AM EST upreplyactions

So do you.

BOOM. ROASTED!

by SandalsNoPants on Dec 29, 2011 11:32 AM EST upreply Rec Flag

by sc_monsta1015 on Jan 21, 2012 10:59 AM EST reply actions

Also our problem last year was with righties offensively.

vs RHP .314 wOBA
vs LHP .329 wOBA

Total .320 wOBA

by jtmorgan on Jan 21, 2012 11:05 AM EST up reply actions

They've batted under .250 as a team for the past two seasons, and they made the playoffs both times

even while the division got a lot tougher. I don’t think it’ll be a problem.

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by SandalsNoPants on Jan 21, 2012 11:41 AM EST reply actions 1 recs

not only is this post terrible because it is all about team average, but it is terrible because it doesnt even provide any substance... AT ALL.

"We absolutely have more power than last year, but at what cost?"

why dont you enlighten as to the cost? prove that theres something bad about what has happened. plenty of tools in the sabermetricians toolbox to measure impacy, yet all you do is appeal to some bullshit batting average numbers. here’s a clue: BATTING AVERAGE MEANS DICK. Batting average has absolutely no bearing on the offensive viability of the team/player when we have MUCH, MUCH, MUCH better numbers to use. this fanpost is an embarrassment. please never post again.

by rglass44 on Jan 21, 2012 1:16 PM EST reply actions 6 recs

I do like the double rage to voice your displeasure

that said, this post could be good if tweaked to include a “contact discussion” and oh, that other thing that I can’t remember the name of…oh yeah, facts.

by raysfaninminnesota on Jan 21, 2012 1:22 PM EST up reply actions