The Rays Tank: Posada Expected To Retire; Kendrick Signs Extension
There wasn't a lot of baseball news this weekend, but what did happen was certainly noteworthy. According to a WFAN report, Jorge Posada has decided to retire (although he hasn't officially announced it yet). This doesn't come as a huge surprise, as Posada was nearing the end of the road as it was. If he wanted to keep going, he would have had to sign a small contract with a team looking primarily for a DH -- and that team wouldn't have been the Yankees. It sounds like he didn't get an attractive enough offer to persuade him to stick around, so he's hanging up the spikes. Scratch one off the "potential DH signings" list.
So now there are only two members of the Core Four: Jeter and Mariano. It seems likely that Mo will be the next to retire, although crazily enough, he'll probably still have something left in the tank whenever he decides to call it quits. As for Jeter...well, we'll see how that goes.
Here's a good article on Posada's career from the New York Times. It focuses a bit more on him as a person, which I found a refreshing take.
In other news, Howie Kendrick signed a four-year, $33.5-million extension with the Angels, avoiding his last year of arbitration. For everyone still hoping for an Upton extension, yes, some players do sign contracts that late in the arbitration process. But I don't think Kendrick is a great comparison for Upton: he was coming off a career year, and his previous track record was much less impressive than Upton's. I wouldn't get your hopes up too high.
- Stuart Sternberg shared some thoughts with Marc Topkin about his upcoming meeting with mayor Bill Foster. I found the quotes by Sternberg in the fourth paragraph especially interesting; it does appear that MLB is taking an interest in the Rays, but the Rays are brushing them back for now.
- Over at Baseball Nation, Wendy Thurm did something I've been meaning to do for a while now: take a look at how the second Wild Card has impacted offseason decision making. There are plenty of teams that have kicked it up a notch this offseason, anticipating a chance at a playoff run.
- So why haven't the Orioles traded Adam Jones yet? Dave Cameron explores the question, and the answer is similar to Upton's situation with the Rays: because he still has a chance to become much, much more.
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Jesus put his cleats on yesterday.
dude just wins.
by Peter Piontek on Jan 9, 2012 8:57 AM EST up reply actions
Yesterday he put up the numbers to go with it
316 Ygs passing
50 yds rushing
2 TD passes 1 Rushing TD 0 TOs
125 QB rating. Brees the night before
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Yeah i've been on the Tebow bus since he was drafted.
It’s not always pretty but he’s a leader of men. (not a gator fan) Just as in baseball , sometimes the scouting just doesn’t justify a players ability.
by Peter Piontek on Jan 9, 2012 9:07 AM EST up reply actions
Brees completed more than 48% of his passes. Jussayin.
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how much of that 316 was YAC?
he had a good game, but let’s not go anointing him after his last 3 shittiful performances.
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103 of Thomas' 204 yds were YAC
He had 120 YAC on 32 receptions during the regular season.
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by Jason Collette on Jan 9, 2012 11:08 AM EST up reply actions
that's a lot of receptions!
oh wait…season
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geez, i wonder what Tebow could do if he
had a Calvin Johnson, Coulson, Julio Jones to throw to
let’s not forget the Broncos dumped their 2 best WRs the last 2 seasons and cheap shot Harrison took care of Decker early on
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This is probably your best troll in a while.
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whatever that's supposed to mean
plenty of QBs sitting at home out of football with tighter spirals and better footwork than Tebow
nobody knows exactly what it takes to be a successful QB, but Tebow can play for my team anytime
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it definitely correlates with more of what tebow lacks (skill, pocket presence, awareness, progression/looks) than what he has (faith, mobility)
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had to laugh at this

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by Jason Collette on Jan 9, 2012 10:07 AM EST up reply actions
He was Wee Willie Tebow yesterday
certainly threw the balls where the defense wasn’t….and where they weren’t was close to D. Thomas. I don’t blame the Steelers for going 8 in the box on the opening play of OT based on what the Broncos had done all day long on 1st down but Ike Taylor is not the kind of player that can be left alone like that.
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by Jason Collette on Jan 9, 2012 10:08 AM EST up reply actions
Posada retiring is disappointing.
I thought he could help as a complimentary player, 200-250 ABs, between DH, 1B and PH. He’s no longer a full time player at any position, not even DH
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On a team that likes to carry 12 pitchers, it is tough to carry someone for that amount of playing time
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by Jason Collette on Jan 9, 2012 10:09 AM EST up reply actions
He would have taken the spot of E. Johnson with more of an offensive side
I went over this several times including mu fanpost. With Zobrist playing full time 2B we don’t need a Johnson type
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then S-Rod/Brignac can fill in for that day while someone EJ-like is promoted from Durham
I think the obvious bench right now is C (Molina/Lobaton), IF (S-Rod/Brignac), Fuld and Guyer. My guess is that Elliot Johnson is probably behind Canzler and maybe even Ruggiano for a bench spot right now.
by AndrewTorrez on Jan 9, 2012 10:28 AM EST up reply actions
what is with all the dislike for EJ
he has speed, can play multiple positions, switch hitter (although not a good hitter, but won’t be as bad as he was last year). That is an ideal #25 and I would much rather him than a no glove, no speed, back-up DH in Canzler and Ruggiano who is basically EJ except limited to OF.
What was the team's record when he played?
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by Transplanted on Jan 9, 2012 11:40 AM EST up reply actions
If he wants to stick to the roster, he needs to improve what he struggled with
Mainly the bunting and contact.
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by Transplanted on Jan 9, 2012 12:10 PM EST up reply actions
the bunting was odd because he has always been a good bunter
the Durham radio guy said on the broadcast while he was up for a couple days last year that he was one of if not the most fundamentally sound including bunting players he’d ever seen
He would profile as the solid bunter
But that was just ugly watching last year
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by Transplanted on Jan 9, 2012 12:20 PM EST up reply actions
I think EJ can help a team
I just don’t see a need for two backup shortstops on a roster than already has Ben Zobrist on it.
by AndrewTorrez on Jan 9, 2012 11:40 AM EST up reply actions
"hitter" should be used loosely
508 OPS vs LHP (when he tends to get his AB)
643 OPS vs RHP
200 career PA, but 14 BB & 60 K’s is extremely tough to defend keeping on the 25 man for back to back seasons.
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by Jason Collette on Jan 9, 2012 11:56 AM EST up reply actions
But how many extra games did the team win when he played
That’s all that matters
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by Transplanted on Jan 9, 2012 12:03 PM EST up reply actions
...what
I love Casey Fossum. Now try and take me seriously.
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by Steve Slowinski on Jan 9, 2012 12:35 PM EST up reply actions
Using the Bartlett scale
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by Transplanted on Jan 9, 2012 12:41 PM EST up reply actions
because, 1 he can't hit much worse, 2. he had the injury that threw off his year
and he also showed improvement over time at AAA, I don’t think he will ever hit enough to be a starter but no reason he can’t hit enough to warrent being a #25 given his speed/defense
The assumption that he can't hit much wirse has many many problems.
The only reason he got the job was because of a high BABIP in Durham.
its the reason most use (including me) that Brignac will bounce back
I’m pro-briggy too, but at least EJ has proven he can hit in the high minors. .319/.375/.475 his last season in AAA. Briggy’s only full minor league season sniffing that was in high A in california. So if people think Briggy can “hit enough” to be our starting SS, how come EJ can’t “hit enough” to be our 25th man utility guy.
Sounds like Theriot is going to do that
When you look at roster construction in the past, it’s not like them to go light on MI:
2011: Zobrist (674), Brignac (249), Johnson (181), Rodriguez (436)
2010: Rodriguez (378), Bartlett (532), Zobrist (655), Brignac (326)
2009: Zobrist (599), Bartlett (567), Iwamura (260), Brignac (93)
2009 is a good example because when Iwamura went down, Zobrist shifted to fulltime 2B and the team went with Gross/Kapler in RF all season. Looking at current roster construction, with Posada on it, what does the team do if Zobrist went down? Shift Rodriguez to 2nd & give Brignac all of that PT again that he struggled mightily with last season? Or, are you ready for a Beckham appearance?
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by Jason Collette on Jan 9, 2012 10:28 AM EST up reply actions
seriously, SF1 is right on this one (!)
I expect the Rays to sign an Adam Kennedy-type, stash him at Durham, and call him up if Zobrist gets hurt. That makes a lot more sense than carrying two utility infielders.
by AndrewTorrez on Jan 9, 2012 10:36 AM EST up reply actions
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Your FA 2b types (cross off Santiago)
Your FA SS types (cross off Santiago & Cedeno)
Any of them look like guys to stash in Durham and call-up in case of emergency?
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by Jason Collette on Jan 9, 2012 10:55 AM EST up reply actions
Izturis or Wilson, perhaps?
not sure what the market is for the rest of these guys, and of course a few (Miles, Inglett, and old friend Felipe Lopez) are probably not great fits.
by AndrewTorrez on Jan 9, 2012 10:58 AM EST up reply actions
Actually, Izturis already has a minor league deal with Milwaukee
Wilson would be entertaining for these types of things http://www.sbnation.com/2012/1/4/2681620/jack-wilson-gif but we’re talking about a guy who has been below replacement level over the past two seasons.
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by Jason Collette on Jan 9, 2012 11:05 AM EST up reply actions
sounds like he'd be beloved in Durham
you basically get two options when you’re talking about a AAA stash: either someone who can play SS but can’t hit (your Jack Wilson-types) or someone who can hit a little bit but can’t play short (Miles, Inglett). In recent years the Rays have tended to gravitate towards the latter — Joe Dillon, Adam Kennedy, Felipe Lopez — so that might suggest they’d have more interest in those types of players.
by AndrewTorrez on Jan 9, 2012 11:49 AM EST up reply actions
Good lord, no
He’s been below replacement level for three full seasons now, in hitters parks
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by Jason Collette on Jan 9, 2012 11:57 AM EST up reply actions
rather have Daric Barton
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