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Jeff Niemann

#34 / Pitcher / Tampa Bay Rays

6-9

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Feb 28, 1983

G AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI BB K SB CS AVG OBP SLG
2008 - Jeff Niemann 2 0 0 11 0 0 0 0 5 6 0 0 .000 .000 .000

6/9: News & Notes

YET ANOTHER BRAWL:

The mound and dugout altercations between RHP Matt Garza and C Dioner Navarro during yesterday's 6-3 loss to the Rangers got their spin in the morning papers today. The information you'll get from the involved parties and Manager Joe Maddon is something to the effect of how the two players are fierce competitors who got caught up in the heat of the moment, and that the issue will be handled "in-house". Should you believe that this incident is no big deal? You are well within your rights to think otherwise, but the Rays are 100% correct in keeping you ignorant. Regardless of what the "truth" is here, the aftermath is nothing that needs to be paraded about in the media. It was embarrassing enough to see the incident itself occur in such a conspicuous setting, and the Rays are right in stemming the tide of information leaking outward about this going forward.

Listen, regardless of the specificities of the incident, we can gather that Navarro is not a culpable party, at least in any meaningful sense. First of all, he doesn't have any sort of track record that would indicate that he works poorly with his pitchers. Secondly, Maddon all but indemnified him from blame in the matter in his postgame remarks. Can't get much more explicit than that, at least as far as stuff like this goes.

So that leaves us to this conclusion: Garza needs to grow up. This isn't the first time he's been held captive by his hot temper on the mound, certainly not if you include his days in the Minnesota Twins organization. This is a problem that has been ongoing throughout his development, and that it is continuing now without seemingly any improvement over the years is discouraging. I'm going to go ahead and speculate that perhaps Navarro didn't handle Garza well following 3B German Duran's home run. That's obviously something he needs to work on as a catcher, adjusting to the mental temperaments of his battery mates, but this is by no means laying the blame on him. He obviously should facilitate a productive relationship with whomever he is catching, but Navarro can't be a full-blown psychologist. There are some issues greater than even he can address at play here, and it is Garza's responsibility to get a grip. Lasting immaturity is guaranteed to hinder his advancement, and there is a sense of personal responsibility in that he needs to take care of matters himself. As it is, given that he is a valuable commodity in the organization, the team inevitably will have to step in to facilitate a lasting improvement in that regard.

While we're at it, the zealots calling for Garza's head need to cool it as well. It would be the pinnacle of absurdity for the team to give up on Garza at this point and try and deal him, or worse. It's not even a particularly good idea to demote him. I've never been a big fan of his, but for the love of all things holy, he isn't even old enough to legally rent a car yet. Is his maturity behind where it should be? Obviously. But the problem is just that, immaturity and the inability to exercise self-control. This isn't some inoperable character flaw that is bound to keep perpetuating itself; it can be mitigated given time and proactivity from all of the involved parties. His peripherals have been unsatisfactory thus far, but his performance to date has been very much in line with that of RHP Andy Sonnanstine and RHP Edwin Jackson, and over the long haul it will improve. Give him time, both on the field and off.

DIFFICULT DECISION?

Both RaysBaseball.com and the Tampa Tribune ran blurbs (an entire story in the team website's case) painting the impending decision of who will be replaced upon the return of RHP Troy Percival to be a "tough choice". Of the present bullpen personnel, only RHP Grant Balfour is mentioned as a potential target to be jettisoned, in both pieces.

The nature of both pieces is cocerning to me, if only because of the conspicuous lack of "Gary Glover" on the chopping block. He should definitely be placed on the hot seat, and there is absolutely no valid reason for Glover to be given an unquestioned pass at a detriment to Balfour when he hasn't been appreciably better. I will be exceedingly disappointed if the implications in this article prove to be true. His success in Boston notwithstanding, Glover has been the weak link in the bullpen since RHP Scott Dohmann was jettisoned, and probably before that as well. The "long relief/mopup" benefit that he brought to the table last year isn't even a factor anymore either, since the team has RHP Jason Hammel for those situations. Now granted, Hammel hasn't been particularly effective, but there's no way a young pitcher like Hammel gets exposed to waivers.

The presence of Hammel does sort of add an interesting wrinkle to this situation though. I would not be surprised if Executive VP Andrew Friedman were burning up the phones inquiring to see if there is any interest around the league in Hammel. Obviously if he's here, there's no way he will get the ax in lieu of Glover or Balfour, but the Rays may just opt to skip that decision altogether and see what value they can get for Hammel. Granted, they might need him for a spot start soon due to the brawl suspensions, but that's nothing that RHP Jeff Niemann can't take care of, given that he has options left. With Hammel proving ineffective in the bullpen, and no rotation spots expected to be open for him in the near-term, Hammel's career could be at a dead end here that the Rays might be wise to try and navigate out of.

ELSEWHERE:

Both papers are reporting that DH Cliff Floyd has been kept out of the lineup for the past two days due to no health issue, but rather an overarching desire to keep hot-hitting Willy Aybar in the starting lineup. With the Rays facing Angels lefty Joe Saunders this evening in Anaheim, Floyd will get his third straight day off. He is expecting to be in the starting lineup tomorrow night.

Meanwhile, the Rays' swing through Anaheim brings an annual slew of re-unions for numerous personnel on both sides. For the first time, that will include Percival, who last pitched at Angel Stadium when he threw out the first pitch at the Angels' home opener last year. Though not active, he will throw a simulated inning either today or tomorrow in Anaheim as he continues his recovery process.

Lastly, here are the previously-undisclosed fines that MLB doled out to Rays players for their involvement in Thursday's bench-clearing brawl in Boston:

The going rate seemed to be $500 for each suspended game as Jonny Gomes and James Shields (who got a slight discount) were fined $2,500, LF Carl Crawford and Jackson and $2,000 and Akinori Iwamura around $1,500.

 

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6/6: Minor League Minute

AAA Durham Bulls (32-29)

BULLS 3, Richmond 0-Jeff Niemann, Juan Salas, and Scott Dohmann combined on a six hit shutout of the visiting Richmond Braves, while SS Reid Brignac doubled in two of Durham's three seventh inning runs.

BULLS 3, Richmond 0
CF Fernando Perez
1-3, BB, CS (10)
1B Dan Johnson
0-3, GIDP
DH Joel Guzmán 2-3, RS
LF-2B Elliot Johnson
0-3, GIDP
SS Reid Brignac
2-3, RS, 2B (23), 2 RBI (33)
SP Jeff Niemann
6.0 IP, 5 H, 0 R, 0 BB, 10 SO, 99 Pitches
RP Juan Salas
2.0 IP, 1 H, 0 R, 0 BB, 1 SO, 24 Pitches
RP Scott Dohmann
1.0 IP, 0 H, 0 R, 0 BB, 1 SO, 16 Pitches

BULLS Up Next-vs Richmond, 7:05 EST (RH Mitch Talbot)

AA Montgomery Biscuits (29-32)

Birmingham 3, BISCUITS 1-Montgomery was able to manage just four hits off of Barons pitching, scoring their lone run in the ninth inning. PH John Jaso struck out with runners on the corners to end the game.

Birmingham 3, BISCUITS 1
1B Rhyne Hughes
0-3, RS, BB
LF Chris Nowak
0-3, BB, GIDP
DH Gaby Martinez
1-4, RBI (42)
C Matt Spring
1-3, 2B (9)
SP Mike Prochaska
6.0 IP, 6 H, 2 R, 2 BB, 2 SO

BISCUITS Up Next-at Birmingham, 8:05 EST (LH Jake McGee)

A+ Vero Beach Devil Rays (30-30)

V-RAYS 5, Sarasota 1-SP Jeremy Hellickson pitched a perfect five innings, while RF John Matulia and 1B Matt Fields had four and three hits, respectively, to lead the Vero Beach offense.

V-RAYS 5, Sarasota 1
CF Desmond Jennings
0-3, 2 RS, 1 BB, SB (1)
RF John Matulia
4-4, RS, 2B (4), RBI (6)
1B Matt Fields
3-4, RS, 2B (14), RBI (27)
C Nevin Ashley
1-4, 2B (3)
LF Ryan Royster
0-4, RBI (24)
SP Jeremy Hellickson
5.0 IP, 0 H, 0 R, 0 BB, 7 SO

V-RAYS Up Next-vs Sarasota, 6:30 EST (LH Ryan Morse)

A- Columbus Catfish (21-39)

Savannah 5, CATFISH 0-Columbus reverted back to their losing ways a day after snapping a 12 game losing streak, getting shut out 5-0 by the Savannah Sand Gnats.

Savannah 5, CATFISH 0
SS Shawn O'Malley
2-4, 2B (4)
RF Reid Fronk
0-3, BB
3B Greg Sexton
1-4
C Mike McCormick
1-4
SP Woods Fines
5.0 IP, 3 H, 2 R, 2 BB, 3 SO

CATFISH Up Next-at Rome, 7:00 EST (LH Brian Flores)

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5/5: News & Notes

Cork Gaines over at Rays Index raised a valid point yesterday concerning RHP Jeff Niemann. Namely, the fact that he hasn't pitched since April 18th and not at all since being demoted to Triple A Durham. In an April 18th start against the Chicago White Sox, Niemann gave up eight runs in 3.1 innings of work and was subsequently optioned to Durham to make room in the rotation for RHP Matt Garza, who was returning from injury.

Yet since the April 20th demotion, Niemann hasn't been seen in game action for the Bulls. Further compounding the confusion is the lack of details regarding what, exactly, Niemann is sidelined with. Alternating reports have it as arm soreness or back soreness, but Niemann's return has continually been pushed back no matter the ailment. At first we heard rumors about him starting Thursday, and then this Saturday, but both dates passed without the big righty taking the hill. Hopefully the matter is nothing serious, and ManBearPig will return to the hill soon, but the lack of information on the matter has to be nerve-racking for Rays fans.

Some other notes:

  • The focus of Marc Topkin's notebook this morning? The Rays' starting pitching was terrible this weekend in Boston, and that fact might have played a tiny role in the team's having been swept. More importantly, Topkin notes that CF B.J. Upton returned to the lineup in yesterday's game, but still wasn't able to swing freely. Upton, who strained his left shoulder in Thursday afternoon's game against the Baltimore Orioles, said he felt no pain in swinging, however. Upton should get a chance to fully heal with an off day tomorrow and ten succeeding games in domed stadiums, a big improvement from yesterday's frigid conditions in Boston.
  • Also, RHP Gary Glover flew back to St. Petersburg and has begun to rehab from the shoulder tendinitis that landed him on the DL Friday.
  • Lastly, Marc Lancaster of the Tribune expands upon what R.J. posted earlier about RHP Evan Meek. The Pittsburgh Pirates, who claimed Meek in the Rule 5 draft from Tampa Bay in the off-season, designated him for assignment on Sunday. He will pass through waivers, but any team claiming him must keep him on the major league roster for the duration of the season, something Pittsburgh has already failed to do. If no team wants to take that plunge, Meek would have to be offered back to the Rays for $25,000, half of the Pirates' original investment. Then again, as Lancaster notes, the Pirates could acquire his rights from the Rays through a trade that would enable them to send him to the minor leagues. As appealing as that 6.92 ERA must be to potential claimants, I'm going to guess that Meek will end up in the minor league system when this is all said and done. Whose minor league system? That remains to be seen.

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4/28: News & Notes

Brant James of the St. Petersburg Times reports that LHP Scott Kazmir will throw five or six innings and a "maximum" of 85 pitches tonight in his final minor league rehab outing for AAA Durham. He is on track to join the rotation this weekend against the Boston Red Sox, most likely for Sunday's game. James also reports that RHP Al Reyes will make his second and final one inning rehab stint for A+ Vero Beach this evening. His fastball apparently "reached" 85 mph in his last outing on Saturday, but he is still expected to be activated when eligible to come off of the DL on Thursday. More injury news from Bill Chastain of RaysBaseball.com:

Willy Aybar [left hamstring strain] said he expects to start playing in games in a week. ... Cliff Floyd [right knee surgery] is expected to begin playing in some games later this week.

Chastain produced another article, the latest to focus on the Rays' impending rotation crunch, and he does a fairly decent job in summarizing things. Chastain also says that LHP Kurt Birkins, who has not pitched in a week, will be optioned to AAA Durham once Reyes is activated from the DL. Essentially, the team faces two tough choices. First, who exactly will be bumped from the rotation? Second, who will be bumped from the active roster? The answer to both questions could easily be the same person, either RHP Andy Sonnanstine or RHP Matt Garza (unlikely). Otherwise, they will need to not only move someone to the bullpen, but bump someone from the bullpen off of the active roster. Should be an interesting choice for the team. Although it isn't my personal preference, I'm guessing based on the circumstances that Sonnanstine will get demoted to AAA Durham since he still has options and the team won't have to disrupt the bullpen by moving him out.

IF Ben Zobrist is due to get the pins out of his fractured thumb today, and he could begin playing in Extended Spring Training games as soon as this week. That from Marc Lancaster of the Tribune, who also had this to report concerning late inning pitching roles:

When RHP Al Reyes rejoins the Rays on Thursday after finishing a stint on the disabled list with a shoulder impingement, he won't necessarily slide back into the eighth-inning spot he had held before. Maddon indicated Sunday he was inclined to keep RHP Dan Wheeler in the primary setup role, though he has done plenty of mixing and matching over the past week.

Lancaster also reports that RHP Jeff Niemann has not made a start for AAA Durham since being optioned down one week ago. He did throw a bullpen session with no problems, however, and thus should make his next start sometime this week. Lancaster speculates that day will be Thursday.

Elsewhere, Adam Morris of Lone Star Ball goes behind the ESPN paywall to retrieve a few Buster Olney bits from ESPN on the state of the Rangers franchise. Hat tip to Rays Index. Here's the paragraph pertinent to the Rays:

Texas general manager Jon Daniels recently received an extension, but if Ryan ultimately decides he wants somebody else making the baseball choices, others who know Ryan wonder if he'll ask former Houston GM Gerry Hunsicker -- now an advisor with Tampa Bay -- to come on board. Even if that happens, friends say Hunsicker very much likes his role with the Rays.

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4/21: News & Notes

  • The Jeff Niemann move last night wasn't the only one the Rays appeared set to make. Though Niemann was pushed out to clear room for 1B Dan Johnson in the immediate, the team will also activate C Dioner Navarro following the conclusion of his rehab assignment tonight for Vero Beach. To make room for Navarro, it looks like C Mike DiFelice has lost out on the battle for the backup catcher's position to Shawn Riggans. Marc Topkin of the St. Petersburg Times reports that DiFelice was seen saying goodbye and hugging teammates following the conclusion of Sunday's game. He could be claimed on waivers as a result of the Rays' having removed him from the active roster.
  • In addition, with RHP Matt Garza also soon to return, Topkin speculates that OF Justin Ruggiano will be sent down later this week to make room for him. RHP Andy Sonnanstine was moved forward in the rotation one day to fill Niemann's slot, while it appears as though Garza will start the opening game of the Boston series on Friday. Also on the injury front, IF Ben Zobrist took BP at the Naimoli Complex, but is still a few weeks from returning.
  • Some snippets from Marc Lancaster's Notes column in the Tribune:
  • The Rays say they are expecting attendance for the three-game series at Disney that begins Tuesday to be similar to last year's numbers. Three games against the Rangers last May drew an average of 8,806 fans. ... With Johnson joining the team, Maddon said he may give Carlos Pena another game or two at DH to make sure his right hamstring is fully healthy. Pena still appeared to be favoring his leg Sunday. ... The Rays are not believed to have serious interest in Frank Thomas, who was released by the Blue Jays on Sunday.

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What to Expect from Jeff Niemann

The backstory is known, and my concerns about his efficiency have been beaten to death, but let's quickly look simply at what BP's PECOTA says for Niemann.

  • PECOTA doesn't seem to expect too much success from Niemann this year, or any year really. Think ERAs in the upper-4 range at best.
  • Some of the notable comparables: John Patterson, Jeff Juden, Todd Van Poppel and on the opposite side Chris Carpenter, Chris Young, and Brett Myers.
  • He's better against righties than the average right handed pitcher.

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