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Rays Deal Young, Rincon Replaced by Morlan, Close to Signing Percival

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[editor's note, by R.J. Anderson] I moved all the information from earlier today to after the jump; it was cluttering the front page and I didn't want a huge post about the speculation.

The deal is finalized, we're just waiting on details folks.

Juan Rincon was removed from the deal, replaced by minor league pitcher Eduardo Morlan. Info on Morlan can be found here, but he was a top prospect in the Twins system, our colleague John Sickels ranked him 4th in his recent book. Last season Morlan averaged 11 K/9 in A Fort Myers. In fact, he struck out 92 in 65 innings! Stats, to put it simply this man is a monster and should start in AA Montgomery next year.

More on Morlan the Monster:

This is what Kevin Goldstein said about Morlan:

The Good: Morlan has both the stuff and command to be an effective late-innings, power-based reliever. He pounds the strike zone with a mid-90s fastball that can touch 98 mph, and his slider is a hard-biting pitch with plenty of tilt. He showed a lot more comfort as a reliever, where he could just grip it and rip it as opposed to the more pace-based approach needed as a starter.

The Bad: Morlan was prone to big innings at times, and needs to do a better job of keeping his emotions in check. When he got into trouble, he sometimes would overthrow, which led into him elevating his pitches, which led to more trouble. His mechanics aren’t dreadful, but they are better suited to short stints.

Timetable: Morlan will begin 2008 back in Double-A with the hope that he’ll be ready for the big leagues in 2009, when Joe Nathan will likely be gone via free agency.

If you're a fan of young pitching this is your organization, add Garza and Morlan to the depths and this is just scary folks. Here's what Jesse from Twinkie Town had to say about Garza and Bartlett.

Matt Garza: In '07 Garza developed a sharp curveball with a tight break. It has very good movement (12/6 or maybe 11/7), and in conjunction with his 97 mph fastball he has two very strong pitches. He had a cut fastball that wasn't used as often this last year, as well as a developing change. Garza has all the potential in the world, and is ace material. He can get emotional but never out of control, he's competetive, and he's not afraid to challenge hitters. If he takes another developmental step forward from where he was for the Twins in '07, the Rays will have a front-end pitcher for years to come.
Jason Bartlett: Bartlett's offense is sufficient for a shortstop. While he doesn't have home run power, there's plenty of gap power and speed to ensure extra-base hits. His LD% has been over 20% each of the last two years. After starting out slow in 2007, it appeared he choked up a bit on his bat and was able to shorten his swing, and his line steadily increased. He's willing to work deep counts to see pitches, but he's a better bottom-of-the-order hitter with his skill set. While he is patient enough to work a free pass, he doesn't walk often enough to make him anything better than an average #2 hitter (.339 OBP in 2007). Defensively he'll make his share of mistakes. Arm strength is average while accuracy can waiver from time to time, but he's also very athletic. He'll make an occasional spectacular play that will showcase his range, being able to get to balls deep in the hole to his right and fielding balls behind second base. I would rate him as an above average fielder, but not Gold Glove caliber…but this is an entirely subjective statement.

Star-divide

The Twins are close to landing Delmon Young from the Twins in a six-player deal that would send Matt Garza, Jason Bartlett and Juan Rincon to Tampa Bay.
The Twins would also pick up Brendan Harris and Jason Pridie, the Star Tribune's La Velle E. Neal III reports.

Per the Star Tribune

Wow. This one will not be received well, a look at VORP:
Rincon + Garza + Bartlett = 26
Young + Harris (w/Pridie) = 31

Pridie and Harris to me aren't huge losses, Brendan would've been our first man off the bench, Pridie is meh to me as we all know. Delmon, well he never had good plate discpline or awareness, he has great potential and one helluva an arm. He will be missed.

As for the new Rays; Rincon is a late inning, only 28, but his HR/9 took a huge leap last year and his K rates have dropped four straight seasons, but prior to that had been one of the lock down relievers for the Twins. Bartlett we covered earlier, and we all know Garza as well from prior posts.

2008 Rotation: Kazmir, Shields, Sonnanstine, Garza, Jackson(?)
Bullpen: Reyes, Wheeler, Rincon, Salas, Percival, ect.

Who plays right? The Demon / Elijah Dukes? Ruggiano?

Oh and also; Brian Stokes was traded to the Mets for cash.

Update [2007-11-28 16:41:41 by R.J. Anderson]:Buster Olney reports the Rays are nearing a deal to sign reliever Troy Percival.

HOLY CRAP!

Step right up and meet the Rays...(credit to J.B. Downie)

Bartlett

Garza


Percival

From Jesse over at TwinkieTown:

Jason Bartlett: Bartlett's offense is sufficient for a shortstop. While he doesn't have home run power, there's plenty of gap power and speed to ensure extra-base hits. His LD% has been over 20% each of the last two years. After starting out slow in 2007, it appeared he choked up a bit on his bat and was able to shorten his swing, and his line steadily increased. He's willing to work deep counts to see pitches, but he's a better bottom-of-the-order hitter with his skill set. While he is patient enough to work a free pass, he doesn't walk often enough to make him anything better than an average #2 hitter (.339 OBP in 2007). Defensively he'll make his share of mistakes. Arm strength is average while accuracy can waiver from time to time, but he's also very athletic. He'll make an occasional spectacular play that will showcase his range, being able to get to balls deep in the hole to his right and fielding balls behind second base. I would rate him as an above average fielder, but not Gold Glove caliber…but this is an entirely subjective statement.

Juan Rincon: Rincon is a strikeout pitcher who fell off the table last year. If he regains form from prior years, he's a dangerous tool for the bullpen in late innings. His numbers had slowly slipped going into '07, but nobody saw his collapse coming. His fastball moves some, but now comes in 93-95 instead of 95-97. His cut fastball is decent, but it's his 87-mph slider that he'll need to set up his fastball. When it's on he'll strike out at least a batter an inning. He also throws an offspeed pitch, but it's more of a "see, I totally have one" pitch than a legitimate weapon.

Matt Garza: In '07 Garza developed a sharp curveball with a tight break. It has very good movement (12/6 or maybe 11/7), and in conjunction with his 97 mph fastball he has two very strong pitches. He had a cut fastball that wasn't used as often this last year, as well as a developing change. Garza has all the potential in the world, and is ace material. He can get emotional but never out of control, he's competetive, and he's not afraid to challenge hitters. If he takes another developmental step forward from where he was for the Twins in '07, the Rays will have a front-end pitcher for years to come.

Apparently the deal is still being reported as "close".

Rosenthal's take on the Percival deal isn't nearly as optimistic as Olney's line was:

Percival, however, is more likely to sign as a free agent with the Rays or Brewers if he wants to close — and the Rays might be his No. 1 choice. Percival, 38, is close with Rays manager Joe Maddon from their days together with the Angels, and their relationship could persuade him to take less money to sign with Tampa Bay. The Rays, though, are serious enough about Percival that they might be willing to offer him a two-year deal, sources say, while the Brewers would not.

Olney updates:

Sources say that Percival is close to completing a multiyear contract with the Rays.

"It's not done-done," said Paul Cohen, who represents Percival. "We're still working on some things."

Cohen said he got some directions from Percival at about noon on Wednesday.

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Re: Report: Rays Close to Dealing Young
This has to mean that they are pretty confident Eli is going to behave and is ready to be the everyday RF, because they've already said publicly they are going to use Rocco at DH.

by Tyler on Nov 28, 2007 3:20 PM EST   0 recs

unless
they want to play Maddons boy Gomer there like they did earlier last year.

YUCK!!!

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by tampabaysportsfanatic on Nov 28, 2007 3:22 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

Re: Oh God No!
In the words of Darth Vader "NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! "

by Flabull on Nov 28, 2007 3:38 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

Re: Report: Rays Close to Dealing Young
Unless the Twins throw in Trevor Plouffe and a Tyler Robertson, I want NO part of this. Delmon's value couldn't be lower right now.

by Kevin Gengler on Nov 28, 2007 3:24 PM EST   0 recs

Re: Report: Rays Close to Dealing Young
Although I feel we could be getting alot more, Delmon Young could def. be lower. He was 2nd play in  Rookie of the Year voting,it's not like he had a godawful season. People just need to be patient, the power numbers will come.
General Manager Manifesto Matt Bishoff

by Matt Bishoff on Nov 28, 2007 3:30 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

Sternberg on the Radio
Stu was just asked on the radio if a major deal was going down and he said not to his knowledge and that something may happen next week at the Winter Meetings, but nothing right now that he knows of
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by tampabaysportsfanatic on Nov 28, 2007 3:30 PM EST   0 recs

Friedman As Well
Friedman said that just like normal they have not heard of this and that they are looking to trade, but they are not sure what they are talking about.
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by tampabaysportsfanatic on Nov 28, 2007 3:40 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

Friedman was constantly taking phone calls
At the Rays' press conference, but I'm not sure how much of that is just normal GM business.

by Patrick L. Kennedy on Nov 28, 2007 4:31 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

Re: Friedman was constantly taking phone calls
He was put on the spot on the radio, I would not be surprised in the bit if he said that to not start more talk and get back to dealing with the Twins
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by tampabaysportsfanatic on Nov 28, 2007 4:36 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

I missed Pat's post
But that same story came out of the papers.

by R.J. Anderson on Nov 29, 2007 12:03 AM EST to parent up   0 recs

Re: Report: Rays Close to Dealing Young
All of this trade talk about dealing Delmon is making me sick.

Do not trade him.  

You have a franchise offensive and defensive right fielder locked up for many years.  Build around him.

I will puke if we deal him or Upton.

Poe

by bpoe13 on Nov 28, 2007 3:42 PM EST   0 recs

Re: Report: Rays Close to Dealing Young
I agree. Ask for the moon and if they give it, fine. If not Delmon needs to stay a Ray.

by floridaroar on Nov 28, 2007 3:59 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

Re: Report: Rays Close to Dealing Young
Imagine if Dukes could keep it together and play right field?  That is the only way this deal makes sense.  While I'd love that to happen, Dukes has never shown that he can be trusted to stay out of trouble/the press/ect...  

by stpetelawyer on Nov 28, 2007 3:44 PM EST   0 recs

Delmon was league average last year
That's all we need to replace him with.

Gain:

  • Possible lockdown reliever
  • Good defensive shortstop with a decent bat
  • Possible stud starter
Lose:
  • Possible stud outfielder
  • Bench infielder
  • AAA outfielder

by R.J. Anderson on Nov 28, 2007 3:56 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

Re: Delmon was league average last year
Let's look at it a different way.

Gain:

  • Bullpen (Weakness)
  • Shortstop (Weakness)
  • Starter (Weakenss)
Lose:
  • Outfielder (Strength)
  • Bench (Neutral)
  • Outfielder (Strength)
We are filling three holes at the cost of our biggest strength, outfield depth.  I'm a firm believer in good pitching beats good hitting and if Garza can hit his potential we'll be in great shape in the years to come.
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by SeanDubbs on Nov 28, 2007 4:05 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

That's what I was going for actually
People are being pretty tempermental here, how many times did we all bitch about the pen or the lack of a shortstop or Edwin / Hammel?

How many times did Delmon throw away another at-bat by hacking on a bad pitch?

Let's see the final results before grabbing pitchforks, but this deal makes us a better team.

by R.J. Anderson on Nov 28, 2007 4:06 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

Re: That's what I was going for actually
I'm bi-lingual.  Not only can I translate blog, but I'm also fluent in Spanglish, Ebonics, Jibberish, and 2-Year old.
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by SeanDubbs on Nov 28, 2007 4:16 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

Re: That's what I was going for actually
It arguably makes us a better team NEXT year. In the long run we're getting hosed on this deal.

Why not KEEP Young. Spend a little cash and get Percival, Eckstein, and a veteran starting pitcher like Shawn Chacon or Jason Jennings?

Spend some cash for the fill-in type players and give Brignac and Price time to mature and make it to the bigs. Why deal away what is possibly the cornerstone of the team for what amounts to stop gap players?

by floridaroar on Nov 28, 2007 4:23 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

Shawn Chacon?
The AL East isn't very kind to him.

by R.J. Anderson on Nov 29, 2007 12:05 AM EST to parent up   0 recs

You are right
The Litigious One brings a cogent point to the table here.  It looks like we got a 3 way platoon situation with Rocco, Dukes and Gomes.  Will someone be able to take charge of that situation or will it be a drag?  That is the key to this trade, if not, the Rays will be looking at Young for a long, long time and asking "what if", even if Garza does well.
Joe

by joedobr on Nov 28, 2007 6:57 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

LOL
at the Mets.

I wouldn't give a bag of balls for Stokes

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by tampabaysportsfanatic on Nov 28, 2007 3:47 PM EST   0 recs

I think you mean...
ROFLMAO.

A LOL just doesn't quite say it.

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by SeanDubbs on Nov 28, 2007 3:51 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

Re: I think you mean...
very true. Thanks for correcting ;)
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by tampabaysportsfanatic on Nov 28, 2007 4:03 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

Re: Report: Rays Close to Dealing Young
Is it possible we are getting slightly more for this???

by nittsallgood on Nov 28, 2007 3:55 PM EST   0 recs

Re: Report: Rays Close to Dealing Young
Because, it seems that Rincon should be aboout ready for free agency soon, Bartlett is at best a 1 year solution to when the cajun god of baseball come up, and Garza has all the looks of a #4-
Young could be Manny Ramirez with defense...  plus Harris was nice for us this year, and I actually dig Pridie some too...

by nittsallgood on Nov 28, 2007 3:59 PM EST   0 recs

Re: Report: Rays Close to Dealing Young
"Delmon was league average last year"

......and Kazmir was in AA when we got him from the Mets.

Dude, Delmon is 22 and is a career .290+ hitter.  Have you seen how easy he hits the ball to right field?

His upside is much, much higher then Garza and we have a bunch of stud arms who should be ready soon.

by bpoe13 on Nov 28, 2007 4:03 PM EST   0 recs

Right.
Because obviously Kazmir for Zambrano is this same situation.

Delmon was average last year and looks like an abortion at the plate most at-bats. Could he become one of the best in the game? Absolutely. Will he? We'll see, if he does we look stupid.

by R.J. Anderson on Nov 28, 2007 4:05 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

Re: Right.
With the NRO so image conscience perhaps they're trying to get rid of the problems of the past.  They've been very progressive in bringing in 'their' guys, both on-field and off-field personnel included.  Dukes is probably going to be gone by March as well.

Looks like we'll see CC, BJ, and Ruggs in the outfield next season?  He did well in the AFL and had a few big hits for Team USA.  His minor league numbers project a best-case Jason Bay type player which isn't all that bad (other than Ruggs isn't Canadian).

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by SeanDubbs on Nov 28, 2007 4:12 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

other than Ruggs isn't Canadian
In the words of Bill Parcells on the Coors Light Commercial:

"Thats a good thing, not a bad thing." :)

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by tampabaysportsfanatic on Nov 28, 2007 4:18 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

Re: other than Ruggs isn't Canadian
"They are who we thought the were!"
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by SeanDubbs on Nov 28, 2007 4:20 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

From the Times blog

Something could definitely be shaking. Rays executive vice president Andrew Friedman just left today's stadium rendering unveiling abruptly, with his BlackBerry attached to his ear after telling the Rays PR staff he wasn't available.

by R.J. Anderson on Nov 28, 2007 4:08 PM EST   0 recs

Re: Report: Rays Close to Dealing Young
ok RJ, bad example but i must be watching something different then you when i see delmon at the plate.  Guys dont hit as well as he did by luck.  Sure he was over matched at times but lets not forget that he is only 22. Over time its not the pitchers who are going to figure him out, its delmon who is going to become more comfortable and turn hitting the ball to right field into blasts to left.  

Delmon had 38 doubles last year.  There is absolutely nothing average about that at 22 years old.  

by bpoe13 on Nov 28, 2007 4:19 PM EST   0 recs

You're right
But B.J. was 22 and looked tons better at the plate (forget about the stats, just purely at the plate), look here:

http://baseball.bornbybits.com/php/PITCHfx_tool.html

Look at B.J., Pena, then look at Delmon.

by R.J. Anderson on Nov 28, 2007 4:22 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

Re: You're right
BJ also had more time in the majors.

by floridaroar on Nov 28, 2007 4:26 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

30 extra games
45 of which came as a 19 year old, that's really a reason why B.J. knows when to not swing at a pitch far out of the zone?

by R.J. Anderson on Nov 28, 2007 4:27 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

Re: 30 extra games
I don't know but 2 years ago people were saying we should trade Upton. Last season's performance changed all that.

I just can't see why the Rays would want to break up what is quite possibly the best OF in all of baseball by trading Young to acquire what amounts to little more than fill-in players.

We should be dealing the Gomes, Rocco, Harris, etc. to fill our needs while holding on to the young uber-talented core of the team.

by floridaroar on Nov 28, 2007 4:31 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

Re: Because Young may have been
Perhaps, but that's no reason to accept less than he's worth.

by floridaroar on Nov 28, 2007 4:36 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

Re: Report: Rays Close to Dealing Young
Just the thought of dealing Delmon Young is a joke.

Unless we are getting Tim Lincecum , Matt Cain, Or Francisco Liriano for Young then the trade is crap.

Brendan Harris Is better then Jason Bartlett.

Matt Garza is unproven and no better then anyone we have in AAA ( Niemann, Howell, Sonnanstine.)

Juan Rincon is a 1 year rental we would be better off signing Troy Percival as a closer and moving Reyes into the 8th.

Delmon Young has skills.

40 2b's translates into big time home run power in the future.

His arm is stronger then Ichiro's.

90 Rbi's is hard to replace and who will protect Carlos Pena if they trade Young?

Seems like they would be opening more holes then filling.

We control Delmon for years so we should hold onto him until we cannot afford him anymore and then trade him while his value is high for a package of proven Major League Pitching.

I hope this is all Minnesota Hot Air blowing up the Journalists butts.

Devil Rays World Series 2009

by Japhei on Nov 28, 2007 4:19 PM EST   0 recs

Garza's just as unproven as Delmon
All he proved he could do was hack a lot and hit for a pretty average; RBIs and protection don't really mean much.

If Dukes gets 500 ABs next year he'll outhit Delmon.

by R.J. Anderson on Nov 28, 2007 4:24 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

Re: Garza's just as unproven as Delmon
Can Dukes outhrow Delmon?

Defense wins championships.

Just ask the former perrenial Bay Area losers the BUCS!

Pitching defense and solid consistent hitting.

That wins Championships.

We just need a Proven Free Agent Starter (Livan Hernandez) and a Reliever (Troy Percival).

Devil Rays World Series 2009

by Japhei on Nov 28, 2007 4:30 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

Wait...what?
Since when does the throwing arm of a player make him a good fielder? B.J. has a great arm, sucks at shortstop.

If defense wins titles then the gain at 2B and SS from Aki and Bartlett would make us better than anything we've had before.

We're not going after Livan Hernandez, the proven tag adds too much money and it's not worth it in the end.

by R.J. Anderson on Nov 28, 2007 4:33 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

Re: Garza's just as unproven as Delmon
I don't know.  If you think Livan Hernandez is the answer, I'm not sure I unnderstand the question.
The truth will set you free, but first it will piss you off.

by pocket8pin on Nov 28, 2007 10:53 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

Re: Garza's just as unproven as Delmon
this is a lot to process... I was checking the Twins fan sights and they are extremely happy... I have a pit in my stomach-
Dukes IMHO would be better than Young, no doubt, but holy sh-- that's a lot to ask now from Dukes-I pray he can be a good citizen, Don't we think the arms we have down on the farm are better than Garza??  This looks good for 2008, but is this good long term???  
I guess we are about to find out of we have the OF depth we thought we did, because here we go!  BTW if Ruggiano is an American Jason Bay, we should be a-ok...

by nittsallgood on Nov 28, 2007 4:42 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

Wow
I really hope this isn't true. This trade does nothing for me, I can only hope the details change.

by Patrick L. Kennedy on Nov 28, 2007 4:34 PM EST   0 recs

Re: Wow
I agree. You are talking about trading the franchise cornerstone and #1 overall pick for unproven potential pitching. I'd rather pin hopes on Wade Davis and Jake McGee.

Only way I say yes to this deal if org has grown tired of him thinking he won't ante up ever here.

by David Bloom on Nov 28, 2007 8:46 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

Re: Report: Rays Close to Dealing Young
In my opinion this isn't enough......you are trading a productive outfielder for the potential of a great arm.

The other pieces are irrelevant, this is Delmon for Garza.

Eric SanInocencio
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by EricSanSan on Nov 28, 2007 4:38 PM EST   0 recs

Irrelevant?
You're joking right? Our pen was the worst in the league, we just added a pereniel steady arm. That's hardly irrelevant.

Pitching and defense win titles, no? We just improved both.

by R.J. Anderson on Nov 28, 2007 4:44 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

Re: Irrelevant?
Who are you saying has a "pereniel steady arm"?

Juan Stincon hasn't looked HORRIBLE last year and was only truly dominant in 2004. He's a one year rental.

by floridaroar on Nov 28, 2007 4:53 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

Stincon? That's cute.
Same guy posted three straight years of 20+ VORPs.

by R.J. Anderson on Nov 28, 2007 4:56 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

Re: Report: Rays Close to Dealing Young
It would be great if Dukes could jump into that RF spot with Baldelli DH'ing and spot starting in the OF.  It would be foolish to assume that Dukes can keep it together that long.  He is not even a year removed from threatening to kill someone and it will be very difficult for him not to violate his probation.  

Hopefully adding Longoria will replace Delmon's bat.  Garza and Rincon really improve our pitching.  

by stpetelawyer on Nov 28, 2007 4:38 PM EST   0 recs

Percy
Awesome to add him!!
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by tampabaysportsfanatic on Nov 28, 2007 4:48 PM EST   0 recs

300 Posts?
"This is GARZA!"

Position by position if the trade goes through how will 2008 compare to 2007?

SP - Better
C- Couldn't be any worse
1B - I don't see Pena duplicating last years numbers, but still having a good season.
2B - Aki should improve offensively and will be better than Harris.
3B - Longoria's time has arrived.
SS - Improvement
LF - CC should be CC
CF - BJ should be BJ
RF - Delmon had a .724 OPS last season, Manny at the same age was over .100 higher by comparison with similar ML experience.  .724 from a corner outfield spot isn't spectacular, but he does have a great opposite field stroke that will lead to more pulled homeruns.  I would say Moises Alou would be a more reasonable projection.

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by SeanDubbs on Nov 28, 2007 4:53 PM EST   0 recs

Re: 300 Posts?
Dukes was named in the top, that guarantees over a 100 posts
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by tampabaysportsfanatic on Nov 28, 2007 5:01 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

I hope we reach 300 posts..
That Garza line is gold, just like Bishoff saying about the Stokes deal "Could the U.S. dollar's value lower any further?"

by R.J. Anderson on Nov 28, 2007 5:04 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

Re: I hope we reach 300 posts..
If/When we get him I fully expect that line to be the title of the post.
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by SeanDubbs on Nov 28, 2007 8:17 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

Re: Report: Rays Close to Dealing Young, Signing
Don't the Rays know not to make deals with the Twins or A's? We're going to get screwed!

by floridaroar on Nov 28, 2007 4:55 PM EST   0 recs

Uh...
Who have the Twins screwed lately outside of old man Sabean?

by R.J. Anderson on Nov 28, 2007 4:57 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

PERCIVAL
wohoo!!!!  I love this, just pray his arm doesn't fall off

by nittsallgood on Nov 28, 2007 4:58 PM EST   0 recs

By the Way, R.J.
Beyond Young, you also have to applaud Smith for getting Pridie, who immediately becomes the Twins' center fielder of the future.  The 24 year-old came back from injuries this year to rake in Triple A.  Just like that, the Twins have an outfield.

IM NOT THE ONLY ONE WHO LOVES THIS KID!!!  haha

by nittsallgood on Nov 28, 2007 5:10 PM EST   0 recs

Um...
My guess is that Smith was the guy that told Ryan to pick Pridie in the Rule 5, but Ryan finally woke up from a chloroform-induced sleep and sent him back.

So, 2 people like Pridie? You and Smith?

by Jacob Larsen on Nov 28, 2007 6:05 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

When Percy is signed
Does Wilson get the boot?

by R.J. Anderson on Nov 28, 2007 5:12 PM EST   0 recs

Re:
So is there anything going on today?

by userlock on Nov 28, 2007 5:22 PM EST   0 recs

Re: Report: Rays Close to
Twins fan here...I want to assure you all - Garza is the real deal. The way I see the deal, you have a surplus (young stud position players), and a deficiency (pitching), we have a surplus (young stud pitching), and a deficiency (hitting), now the rest of this deal confuses me, but the Garza for Young is a great deal. Win-Win for both teams. I'd love to see Garza as Liriano's right handed counterpart, but we've got loads of young solid pitching, and we need hitters. Great deal for both teams. I'll be rooting for you guys!!!

by TwinsFan0427 on Nov 28, 2007 5:42 PM EST   0 recs

Thanks for the words
Delmon can be a superstar if his plate presence turns the corner, Pridie I don't like, but he's better than Tyner. Harris can go either way, but he's better overall at 2B than Punto.

I hope you guys can hold onto Santana, he's not right in any other uni than the Twins.

by R.J. Anderson on Nov 28, 2007 5:48 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

Re: Thanks for the words
No prob...as much as I hate to admit it though, I'm really warming to the idea of trading Santana. With the incoming Tampa players, and the pieces coming in the imminent Santana trade, I think overall we'll be much better, deeper, younger and CHEAPER in the immediate future. Now, with the money saved, they need to lock up Morneau, Cuddyer, etc.

by TwinsFan0427 on Nov 28, 2007 5:52 PM EST to parent up   0 recs