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Rays Trade Ridgway; Get Two

Hopefully this explains our recent obsession with Aybar, we've been waiting on this for a few days...The Rays have traded Jeff Ridgway to the Atlanta Braves for infielders Willy Aybar and Chase Fontaine.

Aybar, 25 when the season begins, didn't play last year due to visa and substance issues, he had wrist surgery in August, but if you'll remember came over to the Braves for Wilson Betemit two years ago. He's a sell low type, but his bat suggests he can become our utility infielder, although he needs to get a look at shortstop in the spring since he's played a total of one game there in the minors.

Fontaine is 22 and a shortstop, if he hits he should be able to stick at six slot, if not he might have to move elsewhere, although that could also come to be if one Mr. Reid Brignac works out. On the positive side he's got power and plate presence. Plus look at him, just look at him:

Ridgway, 27, didn't appear to have too much of a future with the Rays although he was expected to enter camp and compete for a LOOGY spot. If nothing else this just cements the idea of adding another lefty reliever.

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Re: Rays Trade Ridgway; Get Two
Doesn't necessarily jibe with management's character specs, but even in the worst case scenario, Fontaine is probably more valuable to this team than Ridgway.   Aybar could be waived and it would still be a good move for the Rays.  

by Brickhaus on Jan 17, 2008 8:19 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Perhaps it's just me
But I wouldn't have given Fontaine up for Ridgway, not along Aybar or both.

by R.J. Anderson on Jan 17, 2008 8:21 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Re: Rays Trade Ridgway; Get Two
Fontaine is alright. Probably the starting shortstop @ Vero with Suarez covering Second... (Yippee!) Ayber is interesting, but not a lot of pop, I like him more as a second basemen.
Viva Los RAYniacs!

by thebaddancingraysfan on Jan 17, 2008 8:51 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Fairwell R-Way
189.00 ERA

1 Out, 7 ER

Apparently, players with ERAs more than their weight equal something these days.

by Jacob Larsen on Jan 17, 2008 8:26 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Re: Fairwell R-Way
It's a shame, we really got screwed for Stokes in this new market.

by R.J. Anderson on Jan 17, 2008 8:28 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Re: Rays Trade Ridgway; Get Two
What do the Braves see in Ridgeway? I mean I once saw a scounting report on Ridgeway taht said the only reason he got balls called for strikes was because umpired felt sorry for him. Go figure. This just makes me scratch my head, for the Rays not wanting to keep Switzer.
Viva Los RAYniacs!

by thebaddancingraysfan on Jan 17, 2008 8:43 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

now all we need is a lefty reliever
willy aybar will step in as the utilty infielder and now all we need to do is sign jeremy affeldt

by RayOfHope on Jan 17, 2008 8:45 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Re: now all we need is a lefty reliever
Affeldt would be pretty nice...
Viva Los RAYniacs!

by thebaddancingraysfan on Jan 17, 2008 8:53 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Re: Rays Trade Ridgway; Get Two
this is a great trade. Aybay was a top 30 prospect just a couple of years ago. If he can get his injury problems behind him and remain clean, he might be a great pick up.

by davidsmarch on Jan 17, 2008 8:49 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Re: Rays Trade Ridgway; Get Two
Get McGriff handcuffed to the kid.

by R.J. Anderson on Jan 17, 2008 8:52 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Re: Rays Trade Ridgway; Get Two
Make sure that Aybar doesn't meet any of Dukes' friends!
Viva Los RAYniacs!

by thebaddancingraysfan on Jan 17, 2008 8:55 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Re: Rays Trade Ridgway; Get Two
This is a bit of a head scratcher. Ridgeway's numbers in the high minors the last 2 seasons have been fairly good, and the Braves teams play in the same leagues, so they've seen him. Clearly they were more impressed then us. And to be fair, you can't judge a pitcher on 1 bad outing.

Fontaine wasn't used as a SS this season - it looks like the Braves came to view him as a utility guy - curse of death in the low minors. And clearly they must be concerned about Aybar. Maybe some Josh Hamilton payback is on the way - meaning Aybar might be another feel good story.

Seems like a good deal for you guys. Either the Braves have gotten pretty dumb pretty fast, or there's more here than meets the eye.

by nyyfaninlaaland on Jan 17, 2008 9:01 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Re: Rays Trade Ridgway; Get Two
Just reported that Ofante has a broken hand and will be out until mid-March - hence the trade delay I assume.

Ridgway might work out for Atlanta, who knows, I just hope we still bring in another lefty reliever so we don't have to worry about what could've been.

by R.J. Anderson on Jan 17, 2008 9:04 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Re: Rays Trade Ridgway; Get Two
I agree. While Ridgway has had some pretty decent minor league stats-albeit not particularly good control-and is left handed, he is still at best a middle inning reliever and probably interchangeable with dozens of others when pitching as well as he can.

The Braves gave up two young infield prospects who may never make it, but have a chance to be at least solid bench players and maybe more. How did the Rays squeeze two players from the Braves for Ridgway?

And it seems to me that Aybar does have a little pop. Certainly not for a third baseman but for a middle infielder, a 400+ slugging is not bad, and he has had seasons with double figure home runs and 20+ doubles. And Fontaine seems to walk quite a lot.

Giving up Ridgway does limit the pool from which the Rays can find a loogy in 2007, but other than that, I see no loss at all. Hardly a major deal, but symptomatic of the smarts that Friedman always seems to show.

by bobr on Jan 17, 2008 9:14 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Re: Rays Trade Ridgway; Get Two
Short blurb on Aybar from BBA's Callis from July 2006.

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Aybar, 23, set a then-record for Dominicans when he signed for $1.4 million in 2000. He batted .326 in a September callup last year, but didn't hit well enough to keep the third-base job after Mueller got hurt. Aybar has hit .250/.356/.414 with three homers and 22 RBIs in 43 games this season. The older brother of prime Angels shortstop prospect Erick Aybar, Willy is an offensive-minded player who doesn't profile perfectly at any position. He has a line-drive bat, strong arm and sound hands, but he lacks the range for second base and the home run power for third. Likely to fill Betemit's former utility role in Atlanta, Aybar won't be eligible for arbitration until after the 2008 season at the earliest. He has hit .280/.394/.430 with four homers and 32 RBIs in 69 big league games.

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by ttnorm on Jan 17, 2008 9:33 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Re: Rays Trade Ridgway; Get Two
Here is a short blurb on Fontaine from BA when Fontaine ranked 8th in the 2006 Appy League.

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Fontaine went undrafted in 2004 after he slumped as a high school senior. He turned down the Rangers as an 18th-round draft-and-follow this spring, a move that paid off when the Braves selected him in the second round.

Fontaine is a solid all-around player whose bat stands out the most. He hits to all fields with a short, compact swing and he'll develop more power once he adds some loft to his stroke. While he has a plus arm, he's a below-average runner with stiff hands, so his future might be at second or third base rather than shortstop.

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Looks like he profiles best at 2B

by ttnorm on Jan 17, 2008 9:22 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Re: Rays Trade Ridgway; Get Two
I love this deal. Fontaine is one player that I have been following for a while. Seems Sickels like him too.

by David Bloom on Jan 17, 2008 9:41 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Re: Rays Trade Ridgway; Get Two
John Sickels on Fontaine(11/17/07):
Drafted in the second round out of Daytona Beach CC in 2006, Chase Fontaine (sounds like a name from a 1950s musical) is a line drive hitter with very good strike zone judgment. He doesn't have much power at this point, although some scouts believe he will develop more as he progresses. He hit well in the Sally League (OPS +9 percent), but was much less effective after a late promotion to the Carolina League. Note the deterioration in his BB/K/AB ratio at the higher level. I was pretty optimistic about Fontaine last year and gave him a B-, but that looks too high right now. He needs to show more pop, but still has a chance to be an Adam Kennedy type. Grade C+.
http://tbfutureconsiderations.blogspot.com - A Rays Prospect Blog

by Kevin Gengler on Jan 17, 2008 9:45 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Thanks Kevin
Fonz seems like a nice enough throw in, but I can't believe they're the ones adding more.

by R.J. Anderson on Jan 17, 2008 9:48 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Re: Rays Trade Ridgway; Get Two
Chase Fontaine (sounds like a name from a 1950s musical)

or a 1970s porn...just sayin'

The Revolution will begin soon...

by Devil Ray Guevara on Jan 17, 2008 11:03 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Re: Rays Trade Ridgway; Get Two
Two points. First, apparently Aybar is out of options so he either makes the team or we probably lose him.

Second, Fontaine projects as a second baseman. It has often been noted that 2B is the weakest position in the Rays' system, so even if Fontaine is not star quality, he does add depth to a weakness. Again, seems like good thinking to me, and as R.J. says, it is remarkable that the Rays received the "throw-in".

Can anyone think of a trade in the last 2 years when the Rays did not get the "extra" player so that the deal was at least equal in numbers or more often tilted towards TB?

by bobr on Jan 17, 2008 10:05 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Re: Rays Trade Ridgway; Get Two
"Can anyone think of a trade in the last 2 years when the Rays did not get the "extra" player so that the deal was at least equal in numbers or more often tilted towards TB?"

That's the amazing thing, even in that Reds deal it was a two for two swap, same with the Twins it was an even deal all along.

by R.J. Anderson on Jan 17, 2008 10:45 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Re: Rays Trade Ridgway; Get Two
I guarantee, the day that we choose to build a "package" deal for 1 player...this player will probably a future HOFer.

by Jacob Larsen on Jan 17, 2008 10:52 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Re: Rays Trade Ridgway; Get Two
Even more amazing is that the throw-in has generally turned out to be more valuable than the primary person we received.  Ruggiano looks like a relatively safe bet to provide more positive value than Jackson and Tiffany, and there's a decent chance that Pedroza provides more value than Guzman.  

by Brickhaus on Jan 18, 2008 2:26 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Re: Rays Trade Ridgway; Get Two
Here's more info on Fontaine, and an excerpt from my recap of the deal. Click on my name to read more.

Also included in the deal for the Rays is the left-handed hitting Fontaine, who was a second round pick of the Braves in 2006 out of Daytona Beach Community College.  After walking on to Texas and not getting any playing time, he headed to Daytona and raked his way into the second round. A shortstop back then, he signed for $500,00 to walk away from a Florida commitment.

In 590 career minor league at-bats, the 22-year old has hit .280 with an outstanding on base percentage of .390. He has 103 walks in 177 games, and has done most of his damage in the South Atlantic League. Now that he's moved across the diamond to second, his range and arm now profile as average to a tick above. He hasn't displayed much power, only swatting 36 extra base hits as a professional. No doubt a useful piece, Fontaine will look to sure up a weaker spot in the Rays farm system.

Eric SanInocencio www.mvn.com/mlb-rays

by EricSanSan on Jan 17, 2008 10:15 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Re: Rays Trade Ridgway; Get Two
I like this move because it helps us in the long + short run, Aybar for now and maybe the future and definitely Fontaine at 2B in the future.
Also Aybar may have some good motivating friends already on our team in either Guzman, Navarro, EJax or Ruggiano etc. If not then I would attach Carlos Pena to be his Big Brother mentor. Could Aybar be this years leading candidate for our Diamond in the Ruff?
SC raysfan

by SC raysfan on Jan 17, 2008 10:52 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Re: Rays Trade Ridgway; Get Two
I hope that it works out that way but be mindful that Aybar and Guzman are up for the same roster spot.

by ttnorm on Jan 17, 2008 11:14 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Re: Rays Trade Ridgway; Get Two
Personally I am in love with Aybar's career minor league stolen base totals.

40sb/56cs

not a typo.

40 out of 96!

41.7%  !!!  

Don Zimmer could covert more than 42%

The Revolution will begin soon...

by Devil Ray Guevara on Jan 17, 2008 11:06 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

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