Rays Sign Peña 3/24, Kazmir 1/3.8, and Discussing Long Term Deal with Shields
The St. Petersburg Times is reporting this morning that 1B Carlos Peña will have parlayed his wildly successful 2007 season into a lucrative three year contract. Peña and the Rays have apparently agreed to a three year contract that will pay the first baseman a total of $24 million, or about $8 million a year. The deal means that the Rays will avoid arbitration with Peña both this year and next, as the contract extends through 2010. The deal will also mean that Peña's first eligible year for free agency will be spent under team control. The contract is the largest given out under Stu Sternberg's ownership, and the largest in team history since the Hit Show years.
R.J.: "I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return," he says. "And so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena after Oakland demoted him.
2008: 6 million
2009: 8 million
2010: 10.125 million
UPDATE: No arb for Kaz after all, one year, 3.87 million.
UPDATE from Topkin's blog:
Please...
Lancaster provides the above. Impressive.
Because 2008 wasn't shaping up to be an important year as it is Lancaster has some quotes from Kazmir that make it sound like this year will weigh largely on his future prospects in Tampa:
"I just want to win," he said. "I know from talking to all my teammates that that’s their first priority. It’s coming around, though. It really is. We’ve made some huge steps. This will be a big year to know what’s in store for us in the future."
Win 85: build a house, save your ace?
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Not to get too emotional
Awesome.
by R.J. Anderson on Jan 18, 2008 9:21 AM EST 0 recs
Re: Rays Agree to Three Year Deal with Peña
by bobr on Jan 18, 2008 9:28 AM EST 0 recs
Re: Payroll is about 40 million now
by nittsallgood on
Jan 18, 2008 9:55 AM EST
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Re: Payroll is about 40 million now
Wilson is still gone. Garza is missing in action, and should be super 2 in '09.
Shouldn't Floyd be listed at 2.75, with an option for same in '09?
Navarro will be arb eligible next year.
By my reckoning, there are 5 under contract into 2010 (Baldelli, Crawford, Aki, Pena, and Price) plus 2 that should be gone by then (Percy, Reyes) summed project for an increase of about $11.5 mil by then. There are 5 guys that will also be in arb by then: Kaz 3, Navarro 2, Upton, Salas, and Shields 1. Add Garza as Arb 2. Another 9 that would be in arb, but might not be around, and none will be much more than bench or pen material: Balfour & Gomes 3, Bartlett, Dohmann, & Jackson 2, Hammell, Howell, Riggans ?, & Zobrist ? 1. Add Aybar to the 1's (S2).
Put Sonny in the pen. Assume Longoria and Brignac will be up by then in the IF, plus Davis, McGee, Niemann, Perez & Ruggiano as OF bench, Jaso or Riggans as C, Aybar in IF, Morlan & Medlock or someone up in pen, all at min or Arb 1. All that's missing are 1 bench guy / DH (Pedroza), 1 pen guy (Mason?), with a good chance to fill at the minimum from within. Payroll should still be well under control. Only added pricey increases by then are Kaz, Garza, BJ, maybe Navarro. Payroll could be around $65 - 70 mil. Trade Kaz, the number falls $10-15 mil - but you'd need another guy, though probably for the pen, with McGee, Niemann, or Sonny becoming the #5 starter. All that would really be required for Kaz are a reliever and prospects.
Of course, this all assumes no injuries of significance. And that the lower level prospects (Hellickson, Rollins, Royster, Jennings) haven't pushed aside uppers. Good young team. In 2011 arbitration & free agency really starts to rear it's head.
by nyyfaninlaaland on
Jan 18, 2008 4:32 PM EST
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Re: Payroll is about 40 million now
Uh...are you on the 2008 page? Wilson and Garza were there.
by R.J. Anderson on
Jan 18, 2008 4:39 PM EST
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Re: Payroll is about 40 million now
Also, with that year delay in Arb for Garza, the 2010 salary structure discussed should be somewhat lower.
by nyyfaninlaaland on
Jan 18, 2008 9:05 PM EST
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Re: Payroll is about 40 million now
by R.J. Anderson on
Jan 18, 2008 9:15 PM EST
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Per Nate Silver's market value formula
by R.J. Anderson on Jan 18, 2008 10:06 AM EST 0 recs
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by davelrogersyry on Jan 18, 2008 10:16 AM EST 0 recs
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by bobr on
Jan 18, 2008 11:00 AM EST
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by RATW on
Jan 18, 2008 8:52 PM EST
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Re: Rays Agree to Three Year Deal with Peña
2008 ZiPS Projection - Carlos Pena
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AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI BB SO SB BA OBP SLG OPS+ DR
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Projection 478 80 127 22 0 35 90 88 139 2 .266 .385 .531 139 -9
2009? 452 69 117 22 0 31 90 74 133 1 .259 .371 .513 131 -9
2010? 441 68 113 23 0 29 86 70 130 0 .256 .366 .506 128 -10
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Opt. (15%) 511 97 148 27 1 43 117 101 139 3 .290 .413 .599 164 -5
Pes. (15%) 378 54 91 16 0 23 57 64 118 1 .241 .353 .466 115 -13
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by R.J. Anderson on Jan 18, 2008 12:01 PM EST 0 recs
Re: Rays Agree to Three Year Deal with Peña
Kazmir has said he'll go through the arb process. But this signing by Pena has to give him some sense the org is serious about moving forward and willing to pay key players. Perhaps he'll see things a bit more positively now. If there's one guy the "no negotiation if it gets to number exchange" policy should be tossed out the window for it's Kazmir.
Jeez, tell your friends to go to some baseball games down there, huh? And Bob, I think they've been about as financially aggressive this offseason as made sense. And they might not be completely done. The money spent on the bullpen alone tells the tale - 4 guys this season (and maybe a 5th with addition of a lefty) making over a mil, 3 over 2. Entering last season - 0. Boy, had they gotten Jamie Walker last year..., but there's still an option or 2 out there in trade or FA.
by nyyfaninlaaland on Jan 18, 2008 12:31 PM EST 0 recs
Wow..
by SaberToothedPie on Jan 18, 2008 12:34 PM EST 0 recs
Re: Wow..
by R.J. Anderson on
Jan 18, 2008 12:44 PM EST
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Rays avoid Arb. with Kazmir
http://blogs.tampabay.com/rays/
by St Pete Native on Jan 18, 2008 12:35 PM EST 0 recs
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by CharlieRay on Jan 18, 2008 1:44 PM EST 0 recs
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by Flabull on
Jan 18, 2008 2:04 PM EST
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Jan 18, 2008 2:05 PM EST
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by Flabull on
Jan 18, 2008 2:10 PM EST
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Re: Rays Sign Peña 3/24, Kazmir 1/3.8, and Discuss
by R.J. Anderson on Jan 18, 2008 3:24 PM EST 0 recs
Re: Rays Sign Peña 3/24, Kazmir 1/3.8, and Discuss
by Sandy Kazmir on Jan 18, 2008 3:32 PM EST 0 recs
Re: Rays Sign Peña 3/24, Kazmir 1/3.8, and Discuss
It's very possible, and almost likely, that Kazmir simply doesn't want a long term deal right now.
by R.J. Anderson on
Jan 18, 2008 3:34 PM EST
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by Sandy Kazmir on
Jan 18, 2008 3:43 PM EST
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Re: James Shields
In the mean time it's time for me to go buy a Pena Jersey. Nothing like a little instant gratification feedback for the DRO.
by ttnorm on Jan 18, 2008 4:36 PM EST 0 recs
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by R.J. Anderson on
Jan 18, 2008 4:40 PM EST
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by ttnorm on
Jan 18, 2008 4:42 PM EST
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by R.J. Anderson on
Jan 18, 2008 4:46 PM EST
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Re: James Shields
Hafner '07 $6.3 (arb 2) '08 8.05 (arb 3) '09 11.5 1st FA '10 11.5 2nd FA
Martinez '07 $3.2 (arb 1) '08 4.45 (arb 2) '09 5.9 (arb 3) '10 7.0 1st FA
Sizemore '07 .9 '08 3.15 (arb 1) '09 4.75 (arb 2) '10 5.75 (arb 3)
Don't those numbers look pretty good from a value point of view given current salary levels?
by nyyfaninlaaland on
Jan 18, 2008 9:21 PM EST
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Re: James Shields
by UCFKnights on
Jan 19, 2008 8:00 AM EST
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by ttnorm on
Jan 19, 2008 10:35 AM EST
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by UCFKnights on
Jan 19, 2008 11:54 AM EST
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by R.J. Anderson on
Jan 19, 2008 11:55 AM EST
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by ttnorm on
Jan 19, 2008 12:54 PM EST
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Re: Pena a 3/$30 guy?
by ttnorm on Jan 18, 2008 4:38 PM EST 0 recs
OT: Chase Fontaine on 40-man???
by nittsallgood on Jan 18, 2008 5:05 PM EST 0 recs
He wasn't on the 40 man in Atlanta
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Jan 18, 2008 5:27 PM EST
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i love stu steinberg and andrew friedman!!
by RayOfHope on Jan 18, 2008 7:28 PM EST 0 recs













