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Who is Jon Weber?

I'm sure a ton of casual Rays fans are asking themselves - although not this guy, he actually wrote the Yanks a letter - and it figures this will go up after Weber hit a homer in today's game. From what I hear Weber represents the model baseball player off of the field, on the field however, he's not prone to success - although his minor league teams have won something like the last six of seven championships, that's nuts, but it's not because of him.

Take a look either here. I'd like to point to the 2006 season.. Note the OPS first, his best in AAA since 2004, now turn your attention to the league and team he played for: the Pacific Coast League and Tucson.  Now look at the other ballparks he's played in with success; Las Vegas, Bakersfield, and even slightly at Durham.

Despite not putting up world beater numbers the only times he's looked like a competent high minors player is in hitter's ballparks. Below are some of the park factors on runs per game compared to average.

Tucson 1.17
Las Vegas 1.16
Durham 1.08
Bakersfield 0.94

While he did perform well in Bakersfield, and it is a pitcher's park, he did so against much younger competition at presumably lower talent levels. What those numbers mean in terms of Weber's performances is quite simple, a player is what his environment lets him be. If you put Weber in an environment where runs are higher than average of course he'll raise his performance. At the same time placing him in an average hitter's park/league or even a pitcher's park/league would lower his performance substantially.

To tie the connection together, Tropicana Field is a pitcher's park by quite a bit, and while Weber might not play everyday at this point, for this team, he's clearly not the best possible option. We've considered Barry Bonds - Cork Gaines at Rays Index even contacted Chone Smith to run a projection through CHONE with Bonds, the Rays would win approximately 92 games - Kenny Lofton, Weber, John  Rodriguez, and numerous trade options, which is why if somehow Weber is on the team opening day I'll be highly curious and a bit peeved; we can do better than an average product of friendly environments.

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You're not booing
You just forgot the "NDS" part of it.

by R.J. Anderson on Mar 13, 2008 8:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Re: Who is Jon Weber?
What about Podsedni?,  If he gets dropped he could be a nice pinch runner/defensive replacement for Floyd/Gomes.  With Rocco seemingly done Pods gives us a younger guy that has played well when healthy.  I know it seems foolish to have a 3-man platoon in RF, but he would be cheaper than Bonds, younger than Lofton, and give Maddog another speedy option.  Granted, he's not the greatest stick, but an outfield with Craw, Bossman, and Pods would be a place where triples go to die.

by Sandy Kazmir on Mar 13, 2008 9:35 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Re: Who is Jon Weber?
Here are some trade canidates I've been thinking about: Juan Rivera, Andre Ethier, Xavier Nady, Matt Murton, Adam Lind

by BossmanJunior333 on Mar 14, 2008 1:57 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Re: Who is Jon Weber?
Andre Ethier would be the one I would single out of this list....but we would have to give up one of our top pitching prospects.  

I say.....OOOOOOO so worth it.

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by Mound Visit on Mar 14, 2008 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I doubt it
It's Colletti, and dealing Ethier keeps their pride (Pierre signing) from sitting on the bench.

by R.J. Anderson on Mar 14, 2008 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

How About Corey Patterson
I don't know what his chances are of making the Reds since he's got a minor league deal, but he's left-handed, can play center better than Upton, and would be a great pinch runner late in games.
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by SeanDubbs on Mar 14, 2008 5:16 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Re: How About Corey Patterson
You did notice that I said nothing about his hitting inabilities don't you?  He would be better than our other options.
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by SeanDubbs on Mar 15, 2008 12:35 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Re: How About Corey Patterson
I'll get Damon Hollins on the phone. こんにちは
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by SeanDubbs on Mar 15, 2008 10:47 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Re: How About Corey Patterson
私の名前はデイモンホリン 474;。ハンバーガーとフライド ポテトを食べるのが好きだ 290;私はどこの近くにない限り 良い選手としてのコーリー 497;ターソン。 bonzai !
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by SeanDubbs on Mar 15, 2008 10:50 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Re: Who is Jon Weber?
You dirty little link whore, you!

by R.J. Anderson on Mar 14, 2008 10:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

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